What is a forced loss?

Than why is the sr of two teams almost always close to equal? And why are there still big stomps happening? Shouldn’t equal mmr give you close games most of the time. I still think it uses sr and mmr + match performance only to boost/lower the sr you gain/lose.

Because mmr and sr is actualy very close to each other in most cases. Unless you are smurf several ranks lower.

You actually DO need mental issues to believe your own performance isnt the deciding factor in your rank.

Not everyone is sane. Not everyone has a brain that works properly. You dont really know who is on the other end of the keyboard when people make these ridiculous outrageous claims. I choose to believe they likely have mental issues.

Players who are a higher rank than you did something differently. Why cant people accept that its the way they play the game that gives them their rank?

p.s. man was i feisty 2 years ago. wow

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The matchmaker is bad =/= the matchmaker is rigged

Do you even read before making posts?

And yeah thanks, i climbed from gold to GM already, i know that your performance matters. However, youre literally talking nonsense right now.

Bruh I already know this, this was posted a year ago and someone thought it was a good idea to necro the thread.

Heck in Siege I went from silver to plat solo queing. My views are obviously different now.
EDIT: you werent talking to me, my bad

I have just said a prayer for you that you can find some other activity than to follow me around and say negative and false thing about me. I really am serious that I pray for you because I believe it is getting worse.

Also, how much water do you drink a day? this can be causing health issue with mental focus.

Shalom

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It’s like an early prototype version of Ken M. That reminds me, I haven’t checked up on Ken M’s latest cheeky antics in a while.

Yeah i wasnt, all good.

The matchmaker is obviously really bad given the fact that you get matched with people WAY below your elo or that people place near their main SR on different roles, just to give few examples. I never mentioned that you couldnt carry, the system is just bad.

It just annoys me that this guy tries to twist words here.

Yes, this is correct in a way and I have explain this many times.

There is one issue, players are not aware of what metrics are responsible for being seen as “good player” to the matchmaker.

What if I tell you that you are to be evaluated at work as an employee but I will not tell you what the evaluation points are? You have good attitude and do good work, but because you sip coffee too loud and that is one of my secret metrics I do not tell you big surprise you are fired how embarrassing.

If I tell you sipping coffee is metric then you will be a “better” employee (because you will stop sipping loud) but nobody is telling you so you will never figure it out.

Now you have no job or money and this is what it is feeling like to play in this matchmaker (to others, not to me).

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Your supperiors in many Jobs will actualy not tell you what to do to have better position, they will simply pick you because you are doing your job very well, better than others. I its not that common to find a job where you would be told do this that, dont do this and you will get raise. Its not that easy.

Its ok if system has its secrets how to evaluate playes because you can be sure some would instantly abuse it. What is not ok is so poor education for players from blizzard. You have only one simple tutorial explain Ing only do little. Majority of player base is clue less about many things because if that.

This is actually a perfect example against your own argument…

The people that are average and don’t really care don’t notice why they don’t improve, they just think they are doing fine and should be better.

But the people that actually want to be better, they start to pay attention to the little things. In your case, they start noticing that the boss doesn’t like that people sip their coffee. So they adept.

Yes, I am agreeing with you : however this matchmaking is using specific metrics to see if you are better than other player, it is not just looking at if you won the match (this is how it should be working)

Yes, now let me take it another step further please. The people who want to be better do not even realize this matchmaker is viewing individual metric! They do not even know to analyze the sipping of the coffee! It is like if the manager say “if you do this project well you get raise” but secretly he is monitoring the sipping of the coffee. ← this is what is happening in matchmaker

If I have discovered a way to never fire bullets yet still win matches I should rank up, yet this is not how it would work. The matchmaker would see that you are not firing bullets and you will be punished and forced to rank down. This matchmaker is anti-creativity, and anti intuitive.

It is a shame

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So you’re telling here that if you win, you don’t gain SR?

Either you’ve never touched Overwatch or you’re just a complete troll.

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A forced loss is what happens when you suggest that I’m playing the wrong character.