What do you do if your tank does not understand their role?

Your tank on attack sits back as far as possible and not engage at all, then ask your DPS to get a pick
Is there something you can do except accepting that it is “gg, next game”

I see this more often, seem like more people trying out tank?

Go Torbjorn and snipe alongside him, like father and son. :fishing_pole_and_fish:

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:rofl:
I switched to Sym for long range spam, just doing something that is mildly fun and better than watching the clock ticking down

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I never had that. Usually is the opposite problem. The tank goes in alone and dies.

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Lucky you
The opposite is as bad
You are sitting back and wach your tank feed, not fun either

You win or you lose then you decide if you go next

All you can do is try and explain as nice as possible that they need to make space to give dps and supports good angles to acquire kills. If they feel they can’t walk forward at all then tanking isn’t for them. Or they need to play high aggro tanks that just can’t poke at chokes. So like winton or ball or doom.

If my tank can’t create space and thinks a tank is just large hp pools dps heroes. Then I just go mei. She can wall and create space. If mei ever became a tank dps wouldn’t have a way to work around new or bad tanks.

  1. Youre lucky you have someone play tank now.
  2. Its more of the DPS job to create pressure now with role passove back at 20%.
  3. Make sure your support picks actually help and support your tank.

For starters its obviously all map and team comp dependant tho

Saying “you’re lucky to have a tank” isn’t a good excuse for a tank being bad at it. Being new or being inexperienced is a valid excuse. But this idea that they picked tank therefore we should be grateful is dumb. If you queue tank then try and learn how to tank. Don’t think you’re special because you picked it.

Our tank, on Orisa, was sitting at shop, the first car on Hollywood, while the enemy tank, on Rein, was holding the choke
If I on Reaper can juggle on the choke for 10 seconds, draw out crucial abilities without taking much damage and escape unscathed, you know it’s not the 20% dps passive issue

I tried to explain to our tank what to do, but insisted on “Can a DPS get a kill, maybe flank?”, which you can’t if you have literally no space at all

You have to go widow and kill everyone

just play a character that doesn’t really care about the team and can do well on their own, and hope for the best, basically play undercover deathmatch

probably all the orisa mains having a hard time with the nerfs :smiley:

I’m not upset that Orisa took nerfs. But that slow debuff is so strong. I think a baby crawls faster than that.

What even is the tank role anymore? It’s literally just fat DPS now. Space is irrelevant. The best way to take space in 5v5 is to get a kill. Do whatever you have to to get that.

A tank is a brawler today and you take space by being the biggest threat and you have to do it basically all the time without overspending your team ressources

Since tank role is much more impactful than any other role, your contribution, be it negative or positive, matters a lot more.
Playing tank is a form of masochism, but it is also incredibly rewarding if you keep the enemy team well in check

If the tank is Zarya than that playstyle isn’t throwing at all. Its passive af, but if your Zar is dishing out bubbles, its fine imo.

My advice to avoid this? Play tank. It really is that simple.

But we all know playing tank isnt fun, right? But we still want someone else to do the job we’re not willing to do? That’s so very typical of this community imo.

I play LW and circle around and yank tank into fight… I will play chess if i have too, i don’t mind manually moving my chess pieces :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I usually play open queue, so I just switch to tank instead lol.
In role queue, I guess the approach is more like:

  1. Deal with whatever enemy players are making it hard for them to get out there (eg: Ana). I don’t like pocketing, but I’m willing to do it if the tank needs a babysitter until they develop some confidence. It works out better for the whole team in the long run if pocketing gives us a proper tank lol. The other healer can help the DPS while I babysit the tank.
  2. I’ll make a point of saying “hello” / “group up” and pointedly running ahead of the tank and looking back at them so they know I’m sticking with them - to give them a burst of confidence.
  3. If they still don’t run in, I’ll ask them in team chat to ACT like a tank, pointing out that we’re getting creamed. Or I’ll ask them to change to a tank which might be easier in this match.
  4. If they STILL don’t run in, I basically act like we don’t have a tank at all. I’ll switch to Pharah or Moira - someone with a bit more mobility, so I don’t have to rely on a meat shield. I’ll try to protect the other team members a little more closely, since our tank is sitting around the corner, sucking his thumb lol.

I have a lot of empathy for nervous tanks, tbh. It’s nervewracking being on the frontlines and having no idea whether your team is even following you. But there’s a point where it just gets silly. If you aren’t putting in any effort to do the bare minimum, my empathy is gonna run out real fast. I don’t mind if you die. I mind if you don’t TRY.
There’s nothing wrong with being a bad tank, as long as you’re trying. If you’re nervous about it, just tell the team “lol sorry - I’m not good at tank. Trying to practice” and we’ll help you out. Nothing to it. No shame in that. We love a new tank. That means more tanks. WE NEED MORE TANKS. PLEASE PLAY TANK.

Sometimes this is the play on tank. If you’re defending a high ground don’t expect your tank to travel 20m to dive the enemy and feed. Tanks have to wait for dps to bait cooldowns before they can do anything safely.