I am a Tank main. Just not a Rein main.
I hate that the two get conflated.
Reinhardt is empirically significantly weaker in tournament play, though. Like, this is an undisputable fact. Winston is the tank you still want on the majority of maps.
It was like this in Dive meta in low tiers as well. Even when GM was all Winston all day, Rein was taken in Gold and Plat instead because he is very easy to play around.
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And thatās why he makes the game stale. Iād rather have the speed and dynamism of dive than the stand off at the choke that is Rein Vs Rein.
Is their change in goats comp where winston taken rein place as the main tank.
Sooo how do we yāknowā¦ make tanks ā¦ tank? What do we do? We delete shields? How do we mitigate damage? We donāt? We let the damage come and go? We delete the tank category?
Maybe because we got Sombra, multiple buffs to shield breakers, buffs to general damage dealers, more CC, a new shield tank, buffs to Winstonās bubble and dive prevalence made him not the best since 2016?
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Thatās just you bud. The overwhelming majority of the playerbase doesnāt feel that way.
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There will always be a most picked hero.
Pretty much the entirety of dive counters him, thatās why he was hardly played during that meta
Not to mention any shield buster melts him, he canāt do squat to you if youāre not in his range, and even close range heroes like Mei can screw him over if played right.
If you canāt bash him through his shield, then stun him the moment he drops it, or starts to push into you.
Not that complicated my dude.
Is that why he gets replaced by Winston in the same meta?
Now, why do you think the people he synergizes with have a high pickrate?
If you canāt figure this out, Iām sorry.
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300 health
200 armor
500 total
Road, Winston and Dva all have 600 total, with Winston having 100 armor in that, and Dva having 200 (just like Rein)
If someone heals you, you tend to not die. Sorta how healing works in general.
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Crap, forgot the best one
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I do not think that means what you think it means.
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Yes.
Winston/D.Va/Zarya/Lucio/Zen/Brig, also known as DOATS. In the WC in particular we often saw Zarya swapped out for a DPS.
I mean, as far as laddering goes, you can pretty much just 1:1 supplant Orisa for Rein where you would pick the latter and very little will change.
Dive is a high skill strat, and if itās the dominant strat in mid tiers that is probably a sign that something is wrong, as itās almost certainly suffocatingly so at the top.
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No, people seem to like playing flankers and outmanoeuvring enemies when they play rather than sitting behind a barrier.
Just an observation but I donāt presume that I should be the centre of attention nor that the overwhelming majority would want me there.
What he brings to the table that makes him so versatile and used in most comps is his mobile barrier which the other tanks only have static oneās if heās the only one to bring that to the table in his own class heās automatically a better pick than the other two meaning heās chosen over the other two and solidifying him as a must pick also if Blizzard ever makes a tank that brings a mobile barrier to the table that would take the power creep to the next level since shield stacking would be a thing (it can potentially happen now but it isnāt very effective since rein and orisa donāt have good synergy and Brig counters winston so it wonāt be effective)
Well, even if Rein gets nerfed, he will still be a must pick as long as Brigitte is in the match just because of how his kit functions, instead of looking at the cause you seem to be worried about a symptom, Brigitte caused the most radical meta change the game has ever had, and it was in effort for countering and synergism with her, which needed a zarya, who needs a rein, and Rein props up Brigittes playstyle making it much safer, and Rein can soak punishment of being stunned because he can flip back up his barrier and be pocketed with the strong burst heal of brig and a main healer relatively easily, and rein is also used to smash brigitte since he can slap down a brigitte with his hammer and remove a threat that CANāT be left unchecked otherwise the team falls apart quickly.
Iām also a Tank main, but Iām not confused as to why Rein is a must pick, his necessity is only present because of Brigittes entry, and all that she requires to be controlled. I do quite enjoy Orisa where I can play her, I LOVE the freedom of jumping around as winston and the mind games that come with him, but unfortunately, theyāre under lock and key because of brig making rein NEEDED in the meta game.
Iād like to see the results of your survey. I think youāre having some serious false consensus effect going on here. But hey, while weāre at it, letās just delete tanks all together and this can just become DPS watch. Best Genji wins!!! 
You shouldnāt and they donāt.
Rank : Gold
Most played hero : Brigitte
Point of view : Irrelevent
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Rein is taken in low ranks since heās easy to use and effective in most situations where other tanks couldnāt do with the nature of their barriers
This wave of tears about Rein that started because Brig will soon no longer be able to stun him with impunity is very strange. As if having guaranteed value on the frontline by pressing M2+M1 is integral to her viability and not her one-stop-shop ability to passively thwart dives. 
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Yes, that is what I said.
In tournament play, people are able to play around static barriers a lot better (and more importantly, they are placed more effectively) and so they get more value.
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first part yah she needs some type of buff
no rein will always be mandatory even with a good orisa eps on attack. she cant move her barrier at will. buffing others to be just as good as an over performing hero is the worst thing you can do.
I cannot give my input on tournament play but if it is true why do we not see the same thing on ladder
Word.
People really need to take several seats and wait for the current patch to affect the meta. Hog was buffed, that benefits Orisa. Their niches are static payload comps, and by design Orisa doesnt shares the same benefits that reinhard has just because both have shields. Thatās like saying Zarya has the same benefits that D.va has, which is a total lie.
Youāre seriously delusional if you expect Orisa to work on all situations where reinhardt is better.
Hog was buffed, that benefits Orisa. Reaper was buffed, that makes Winston more weak. Brig is getting an specific nerf, that makes mirror GOATS weak. Wrecking ball is there somewhere.
This post is another āyou nerfed my hero, so yours should be nerfed too!!!ā
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