Weird Stuff Old Accounts QP

Do you often get bots or brand-new players as teammates in Quick Play?
Do you end up in POTG whether you start the match or get backfilled? (You walk a few steps and then boom one death…but that one death is part of your opponents POTG)
Does it sometimes feel like you’re doing less damage, or that your team takes far more damage than the enemy team?

If this sounds familiar, you may be on a very old Overwatch account. Gameplay and matchmaking in Quick Play can feel noticeably different on newer accounts, often resulting in a smoother or more balanced experience, while older accounts may feel uneven or “rubber-banded” by comparison.

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Almost every account Ive seen with public profiles in QP is like gold-masters but only for like seasons 3-17 and then have like really low hours in QP, every single one. So im guessing they are bought or hacked accounts being resold to smurfs and hackers.

How would old accounts be different? Is there any data on this to back it up or just speculation?

Conspiracy…. But….

https://youtu.be/5N5RGRtYxo8?si=h11InxQEpWzht21G

I’ve heard of this before but idk if it’s true. Guy says on main old account stuck in diamond/masters 5 but on new account goes 37-1 and gets grandmaster.

Maybe this is why new accounts are so common where a level 3 genji is running the lobby? /shrug

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Thanks for posting the video, it was quite fun to watch.

The things the guy mentions in the video is the reason why those unranked to gm videos don’t make too much sense.

And yeah, I do have explanation why that is. I honestly don’t remember where this comes from, but I remember this was mentioned by Blizzard somewhere long long ago… Basically, everyone knows every player has their hidden MMR. The SR is just numbers that you grind, while MMR is your actual skill points. So the game actually knows how good of a player you are. So what happens is that the game will always try to equalise your SR closer to your MMR. Say, your MMR is around diamond, but you’re somehow grandmaster – you’ll be getting very hard games, because the game is trying to drop you to diamond. However, if you’ll be winning those games (you can get lucky, for example if an enemy throws a game or they have a leaver), your MMR will rise up.

This is why new accounts have it easier. The system is not too certain about your MMR, or it may even think you’re grandmaster off the bat and allow you to easily rank up from plat to gm. That’s the story.

My friend recently created a brand new account. Decided to play a hero that they never play (Illari). First game in comp was around high masters, second game was around low gm. And they were still easily winning those games, as if their teammates were so much better than the enemies.

PS. It’s all about the hidden MMR.

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it doesnt work that way though. Your mmr is not “fixed” to something that the system thinks you should be.

Additionally to that, your visible rank and mmr are tied together. So, you cant have a ~diamond mmr with gm rank badge or the reverse.

The game is not trying ever to move you anywhere.

People who cant rank up accounts sometimes arent just that consistently good players.

If your MMR is diamond and somebody boost you (gm stack on their alts, etc.), your SR will be gm, but MMR will still be diamond. Yes, they are supposed to be tied together, but if there is much discrepancy, the system tries to move you towards your MMR.

I didn’t come up with this myself, this is what Blizzard said in the interviews/posts/etc.

No, there is no disrepancy and your mmr moves with every win and loss, just like your visual rank.

You’re just not up to date.

https://youtu.be/d_Ut8pCH9QM?t=786

Besides this, you got it backwards - matchmaking always has worked solely on MMR, your visible rank has never mattered at all as far as matchmaking goes.

If you have diamond mmr you’d be playing mostly with and against other diamond mmr players, on average.
No matter what your visible rank badge would be.

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This used to be true (that hidden MMR existed), but it no longer does. Now your MMR and SR are exactly the same.

That guy is just inconsistent if they sometimes are unable to rank up.

There are people who have multiple accounts in top 100 or whatever, that’s consistency. Getting stuck in masters sometimes is just being inconsistent.

They pretty much also admit by the end of the video that they also have no proof of rigging or anything, so, the whole video is just lazy clickbait.

Of course no proof. But OW2 has an odd definition of coincidence and RNG. He mostly talks about the quality of team mates he gets over his actual self skill. Your rank still depends on 4-5 other people since it’s a team game.

I never understood the mentality of “if you are better than your rank you should be able to carry the whole lobby” BS.

Anyway, just posted for fun and to feed the conspiracy. :rofl:

Well, there are teammates for everyone - better players will still overcome those odds and rank up. If someone gets stuck, they’re just not that good as they thought they were. Keyword is being consistently good.

You dont have to -hard carry- to rank up, a 55% winrate will rank you up over time. Hard carrying is just for someone who thinks they’re far better than anyone else around the current rank.

Anyway yeah, that video is just them ranting about “bad teammates” essentially which is..as helpful as these forums most of times.

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One thing for sure, my alt account has better games (Apart from the first 15 games)

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I dunno I don’t think it’s as simple as that. There are times when I have bad team mates and am essentially carrying a lobby as DPS, Then the whole enemy team just shuts me down the rest of the game by hard focusing me. I felt the spectrum that ranked is.

I’m not the greatest player but have my moments. Plat average. Came back in novemberish, had a smooth climb from silver 3 to gold 1, then loss streak this season from gold 1 to silver 5 and just lost the will to keep playing lol. Of course you deal with all sorts of factors. It’s true, 55% win rate yo can climb… over like 1000 games tho! I got tired of the roller coaster putting me right back where I started the day.

I don’t necessarily believe it’s all matchmaking issue, but as a solo que player it’s just things feel out of your control sometimes.

Kudos to those that can rank up and stick with the grind!

Yes, this is a known thing, likely related to so called “anchor stats” and rank decay if you take long breaks at a time. My experience is much, much worse than friends with newer accounts.

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Thanks for the link. I watched it all, quite an interesting video.

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well im a VERY OLD account in quickplay but for me it depends on the hero i play. i play sombra i win most of the time. i play widow i lose most of the time

i guess i suck at widow hehe