Find out how our newest five Heroes are statistically faring as our analysts share win rates, ban rates, and what we’re doing with all those beautiful numbers.
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Great to see all this information.
I’m really hoping there won’t be any further nerfs for Vendetta. You added a lot of fun heroes to the game - let’s keep them strong for a while!
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Our balance team believes Competitive players might be following the perception that Domina is overpowered, even though her win rate says otherwise. Her ban rates may drop over a longer period as clear counters to Domina emerge. Have a bonus hint from our devs: look to aggressive Heroes like D.Va and Reinhardt to shut Domina down.
I’ve been saying this all along!
It’s another reason why I’m not convinced hero bans are a net benefit.
Players perception is often incorrect.
It’s frustrating seeing Vendetta being banned in my games all the time when she’s actually so easy to deal with.
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bans are so stupid. not surprisingly a year later and the community has not shifted whatsoever from hiveminding them. i still recall when Jeff talked about how they did not want a ban meta to develop where people simply could not play particular heroes…prophetic really (and that was with waaaaaaaaaaay fewer heroes…you got twice as many as back then and STILL people do not waver from it)
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"Our balance team believes Competitive players might be following the perception that Domina is overpowered, even though her win rate says otherwise."
No. You’re “perception” of how things are balanced is wrong because you think Win Rate high = Strong. Stop balancing the game off of such inconsistent data when you can’t control a majority of the variables that influence said data.
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It’s always about data. But does the balancing team actually play the game? I’m not under the impression that’s the case.
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It happened to me yesterday. A stupid cat ulted me and dropped me from the map when playing Dva, but I just flew back. Except in the 2nd round he did it again but this time it took both of us out. I’m adding the cat to my ban picks now, not bc of muh perception of op, but bc the cat has become extremely annoying. Get that through your damn heads balance team.
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Thanks for coming on this chart-filled journey with us. Let us know in the comments or on social media what other stats you’d be interested in seeing in the future and we’ll see what we can do.
I know you might not be allowed to give out this information - but I’d love to see the player numbers, or just the percentage of Steam vs BNet players.
How many of your players access the game through a Cloud gaming service?
How many through each of the different consoles?
How many on a Mac via Crossover? Etc.
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my favorite bit:
Her ban rates may drop over a longer period as clear counters to Domina emerge. Have a bonus hint from our devs: look to aggressive Heroes like D.Va and Reinhardt to shut Domina down.
oh you mean when people actually try playing the game?
like you gotta love when even the devs themselves are saying “hey…have you guys considered…”
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No one bans mizuki cus he’s doodoo
Nice joke devs, Cat is banned because is BROKEN.
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well beyond stupid, and very bad for this game
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They are there to ban heroes that people fine too strong, or annoying. And it has been doing they ever since they added bans. What is the problem with that? Working as intended.
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Can’t say for all of them, but Custa (associate hero designer) still streams occasionally. He still plays at GM level.
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And what are his opinions on the current state of balancing?
Bans are actually well beyond smart and very good for this game. We actually need even more ban slots bc there’s too many annoying characters now.
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Would have to go back and double check past few streams, but he seems generally happy with it. I doubt he’d say anything negative on stream. But I think he’s taking notes between matches, so it appears he’s looking to improve things based on what he’s encountering while playing.
But that’s supposition on my part.
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At least he’s happy with his team’s work, I guess.
I can’t say I feel the same.
I can’t wait for all of the Domina and Packcat threads to continue through the rest of the year. Right up until these heroes get nerfed for no good reason.
Literally players on the forums are saying who cares if they are balanced or underperforming. People just don’t want to play against certain heroes.
That’s why they get banned. Remove hero bans from the game. Let the statistics speak for themselves.
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I think it’s fine that heroes with middling win rates have high ban rates. People may just not enjoy playing against them. Solid dev update
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