Workshop code: P4G39
F to spawn widow
I have the distance between me and widowmaker in the upper left. The Blue sphere is 60m (start of falloff), and the red sphere is 85m (max falloff), both centered on Widowmaker.
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The number at the top of the third video is how far away the object/person that I’m pointing at is from me, to get a more accurate number.
And added a message popup that shows exactly how much damage was dealt.
The yellow sphere is ~ max distance to still kill a full hp 200 health character.
At 76.66m you kill a 200hp person, while at 76.67 meters away you deal 199.9X damage.
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And widow mains are losing it. I wont say whether this is a right nerf or a wrong nerf or even if she needed one to begin with but what exactly is this acomplishing I don’t get it. This might make a difference on Havana 3rd point and thats it.
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lmao this nerf is literally nothing on almost every map. Junkertown A and Havana A and C are probably the only places it will really matter, but every Widow player is acting like her bullets are being replaced with soap bubbles.
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Needs to be smaller IMO,
maybe even 50M
She has the largest AOI of any hero in the game, this doesn’t change that at all
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This nerf is just to make up for some bad level designs with long sight-lines on a small couple of spots on some maps. It’s not a huge change.
The ammo nerf is the big one.
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That’s incredibly generous
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Widow mains ; tOtAllY uNfaIr yAlL aRe bRoNzE mErcy MaINs
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This is an amazing nerf to her and one I have been asking for for a long time. She is now forced to be closer to the fight. She can no longer 1 shot people from any distance.
Game will be better now.
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Did you watch the video my dude? The radius of fall off is pretty darned generous. Not that it won’t help in a few places for sure but I’m having trouble imagining it’s going to make a huge difference the majority of the time.
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Yeah. I think it’s gonna hurt her in her most frustrating maps (I’m especially interested in seeing how Havana gets better) but won’t make a difference the majority of the time.
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Yeah , and all those widows players are freaking out. This is just a nerf to stop widows from spawn killing and even that might still not be fixed.
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I’ve actually been a little surprised at what a hissy fit they’re throwing over such a non-change that will really only stop spawn camping bs. 
Edit: at least when Doomfist or Genji mains have taken to the forums to demand nerfs don’t go through they’ve been actual nerfs, deserved or not.
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It feels like it really ought to be expanded. One can go most of a map without noticing the nerf exists, only to baffled upon hitting a nice cross-map jumpshot with the satisfying click of a headshot while dealing bodyshot damage.
I’d rather they expand it to 40-80 (200 damage at 66.66 meters, down from the 76.7 here) so it at least feels like a real mechanic, rather than something to awkwardly nerf only jumpshots or the most iconic of Widow’s long-range sightlines.
I don’t think its big.
Just annoying getting inconsistency.
Will teams run a mercy to ensure its a ohk or will widows just get a tad closer to be sure?
Personally i just like the gameplay of her, so nothing changes anyway
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So, pretty much no nerf … figured …
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Don’t you guys know? Widow never leaves spawn
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It’s like a nerf in two spots in the entire game. It just means in those locations you don’t need another widowmaker to even have a chance.
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This is just the dev’s way of getting widow mains to actually use their movement keys.
That’s the intention, to make up for the problem they created with too long a sight lines.
I’m not, they are among some of the most smug and egotistical players I encounter in OW; they make Genji mains seem respectable.
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The funny thing is that she’s not 
it reminds me of the Deadeye buff in that it only really has an impact in an incredibly narrow set of circumstances…
ie Specific parts of Havana, Gibraltar, junkertown, Kings Road 
I’m not entirely sure that she’s completely unable to one shot in these situations either, just takes a bit longer to charge
Would be interesting to see what exactly made someone go, DAMN, we GOTTA fix this… 
