Venture vs tracer

Reaper can 1v1 too many can 1v1 rein many can it’s not special.
If you 1v1 ed ow1 hog then it’s special.

Brig was op broken yes, but her kit was designed perfectly to counter tracer.

After brig nerf they still had to buff tracer fall of range so that she could shoot brig safely.

So you can do all the i didn’t sleep over the banana :banana: look .

But you are wrong brig was a counter to tracer.

Whew doesn’t take video evidence
Doesn’t take t500 evidence

Just got to throw blizzard :pensive:

Anyway you are free to imagine whatever you want :wink:

If a Reaper was beating a Rein 1v1, that Rein somehow managed to miss his hammer or just never shielded. Brig could literally stand still on Rally and win the fight against Rein just by swinging. That’s…not ok.

But look at her. Brig’s kit hasn’t countered Tracer since she became balanced. Even if they designed her to counter Tracer, she could only do it when she was broken and a counter to everyone. Now, Brig is actually not even the worst Support matchup for Tracer.

I know what Flashbang did. It is functionally the same now. If you get hit, you’re dead.

Again, T500s can be diffed, which is what happened in that video. T500s are not gods. I would know, since I face them literally every game.

Ok this is just funny

Winston being a Tracer counter :skull:

Genji being a Tracer counter :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:

JUNKRAT BEING A TRACER COUNTER :skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull::skull:

I’m sorry, but that post is giving “Struggling to escape chases” vibes. Gave me a good laugh though, and reminded me of a classic meme :joy: so thanks

Junkrat is a bad player counter.

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I feel blessed to say that there are very few bad players that main Tracer :skull:

Most of us climb or quit. Seriously, have you ever seen a Tracer main below Diamond? I only have because of my coaching lol

Yea no. This mindset is why 5v5 and RQ exist. We should never have listened to people who just want everything to be handed to them for free.

Look go ask blizzard :joy:

It’s official and you are wrong :triumph:

That was more of a joke
Eitherway look man i can’t waste time explaining how reaper 1v1s rein to justify brig 1v1 rein wasn’t special to prove that brig was designed to counter tracer and did counter her.
Look how much you derail a topic and tire people out.

It happened if you have want to think otherwise feel free to do so despite all actual facts and evidence and literally tracer having falloff buffed.

It’s so funny, the self-callouts in game. Even teammates that do it rofl. Hilarious how they think he’s so good and so easy, but that just says everything about them and their rank.

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So you are saying blizzard is bad :wink:

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Damn, ok :pensive:

You don’t have to. Neither hero was fundamentally changed. Reaper 1v1s Rein when the Rein has like… severe mental defects. Although… I mean…it IS a Rein. You never know with them.

Brig stopped being a “Tracer counter” when she stopped running the game. Again, it’s not fair to say that she was a counter to a specific hero when in reality she was just really broken.

I wasn’t the one that derailed it, you know. That was y’all.

When Tracer fall of was buffed from
10 -13 .

It’s actually a revert from 2016 when 12 was found op and made to 10.

Now don’t talk it’s 10 again cause it came along with a joker clown aimbot patch and hp increase and it’s not the ow1 brig any version of her cause she can’t stun.

This brig is far removed from ow 1 brig.
The buff was made a few months after brig was nerfed and made to have 200 shield.

Wait, they’re just saying that Pharah is a Junkrat counter in that post though lol, and that Winston and Genji are Hanzo counters…? Okay then.

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No, when Brig got nerfed lol

No one is playing outside of Blink melee range anyways. 10 meters is really all you need. Shield bash, stun or not, is dodgeable from that range too.

Brig hasn’t been a Tracer counter since she became a balanced hero. What she was designed to do doesn’t matter, it’s what she actually does do. I don’t think it’s fair to call overpowered heroes of that caliber counters. Pharah technically countered Tracer at the beginning of the season…but she was also in every game with a 60% winrate. She countered EVERYONE. It’s the same concept.

If you want to consider that a counter, fine. But I won’t.

Ya blizzard is always right :joy: actually ya it makes sense while Winston zarya can’t be called counters to tracer, but they did zone her efficiency and zarya bubbles could save people from pb.

Zarya actually makes sense as a matchup where Tracer isn’t favored. But Winston was always zoned out by Tracer afaik. Before the armor change, Tracer could peel against Winston better than anyone else.

Look tracer got buffed a month or so after brig was nerfed and reworked.

Cause she still countered tracer…

Think this out a hero who when she had 12 MTR min fall off was considered op and fixed at 10 for years had to be changed to 13 to overcome this hero they created to be herself again.

Dude why are you trying to live a thing you weren’t part of, you were not there qrow.

That would be way into ow2.

Not ow1

In ow1 she was balanced by making tracer better and even that didn’t work at times.

She was designed to counter tracer and she did this is fact and history that you did not witness.

:stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Brig’s nerfs weren’t all at once, were they? To me, that sounds like she was still busted when they buffed Tracer.

I don’t need to be. If I know the abilities, I can get a pretty good grasp of how Tracer plays around it. More so if I have played against an iteration of the hero, which I have. You can play within 10 meters of Brig and never get bashed. It isn’t slower than it was in OW1. Brig was a Brig sided matchup, not a counter. Brig can’t stop Tracer from playing the game correctly. Venture CAN. That’s the difference.

I stand by what I said. Venture is the first Tracer counter. No other hero forces you to change your entire playstyle. Not even Brig.

Which is imaginary but understandable you never were there to witness tracer when she blinked into the world first :smile::hugs:

If it was imaginary you’d be able to explain how Brig forces Tracer to play incorrectly.

I don’t think she does though at most the drilling mudball is a light soft counter.

I totally expect the gm mudball drillers are totally different and dig three feet more ok v😉