Tracer: You don't understand Genji, i could've save him, maybe the world would have been better of if it was me instead of him

So i know i’m late on this but i recently heared this conversation beetween genji and tracer. I think tracer still haven’t forgot and forgive herself for letting Mondatta die in the Alive cinematic, even tho her mission is to protect Mondatta, she failed. Tracer even said she would take the bullet and sacrifice herself to save Mondatta, to complete her mission. I was really suprised since a happy and bubbly character like tracer would think of such a dark action. She thought it was her fault for recalling in order to protect herself and the chronal exellerator. But even if she block the bullet for Mondatta, Widowmaker can still shoot another one to end Mondatta.

So if tracer didn’t recall, she and Mondatta would have both died. But it all was becuz widowmaker shoot the pulse bomb making it explode and stop mondtta from going in the payload. I think tracer didn’t expect that throwing her pulse bomb at a HIGH LEVEL AND ONE OF THE MOST DEADLIEST AND RUTHLESS ASSASSIN SNIPER IN TALON would give widowmaker more time and distract Mondatta. She didn’t expect widow to be that good at sniping in the smoke.

Its just sad to see tracer blaming herself for someone else death that was not ENTIRELY her fault.

I’m sorry, but I just can’t feel sorry for him or Tracer because the story feels like such nonsense. He’s a robot. They could just rebuild him. They don’t because it’s inconvenient for the plot and having Widowmaker kill a human would’ve been too violent apparently.

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Omnics aren’t just robots. They can’t rebuild someone’s life experience. Look at Orisa, would you say she’s still OR-15?

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If they have hardware capable of learning and forming memories, they should be able to create copies of that hardware. How’s it any different from a memory card? You can say Mondatta had no copies, but again, that’s awfully convenient. He’s important enough to have bodyguards and personal escorts.

He likely didn’t have backups for religious reasons - if the Shambali see themselves as alive and unique, then its likely they’re against any copying of memories or personality, so they can retain that uniqueness.

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That’s a reasonable explanation; I can accept that.

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I don’t think Tracer had a mission to protect Mondatta in Recall. He came to visit her home district King’s Row and she went out to see him. She is probably a fan of him and the Shambali, maybe even a devotee. Remember that during the Uprising Mondatta was kidnapped by Null Sector and she both advocated for Overwatch to take action to save him and was personally part of the group that stopped Null Sector.

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Tracer is fan of Shamball. She said it in her conversation with Zenyatta. They both miss Mondatta what also is the conversation about.

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Why Tracer couldn’t stop Mondatta’s death was simply because Widowmaker outplayed her. It doesn’t mean she is weak. But she failed.
As a human being it is normal to feel sorrow for persons death that you admired the most. And it is specially difficult that knowing that you could have save him only if things go differently or trained differently. It is not her fault. But it is hard thing to deal with. You can see how top athletes break down when they come so close to winning but just couldn’t do it. So imagine how devastating it feels for Tracer when the stakes are things like a better world.

It is easy to say just get over it. But hard to do. Even for strong people. And she might not see as strong but she is. Not every one can become sane after what she went through. After her accident.

And as for her thought. What will happen to the world if she died instead of him. Will it be better? No one knows. Only the time will tell. But I have a feeling. That things that happen that way for a reason. Mondatta, Tracer and Widow. I have a feeling each of them have a have much bigger role to play for the future which will leads to deciding the fate of the world. Mondatta already did his part. Rest is up to Widow and Tracer.

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It is about conciseness. What is it? How can machines become sentient? These are philosophical questions that we have no answers.

And Mondatta is a monk. And he has a religion. That means they have their own way of looking at the world. Since he seems to be a monk then whatever he is believing must be about something spiritual. Something that is beyond just data.

So why he has no copies? Maybe they are against it. Or maybe they cannot be copied. Because these robots considered to be sentient. And to come to that point their a code or whatever that make them who they are must be something beyond we can understand in our current point in time. So I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t work like copy paste. I mean even in humans, identical twins can have different personalities.

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His data should be in the cloud smh.

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If that would be, Sombra could just destroy him from far, far away. Widowmaker wouldn’t be needed at all.

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I always get a cold back when she says this…
Stop reminding her :frowning:

On the bright side, it shows her taking a lot of care about the personalities she loves and admires.

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For all of her cheeriness, Tracer can be very sober when she wants to be. During Christmas King’s Row matches, Tracer will think about visiting Emily, but she decides against it for the mission. Don’t forget, her speech also motivated Jack Morrison to authorize the mission played in Uprising. She’s far deeper than we give her credit for.

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Where’s Michael when you need him?

Let’s try and bait him: Michael, dear, what is Ashe’s favorite room in her parents house?

Just to be clear, this is a jest, I completely respect the man, just wishing he had more freedom in telling the story and keeping it updated more regularly.

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Take it up with Blizz-vision. Michael is just the writer.

Actually they are, but they have gained artificial intelligence
still, they are robots, you cant put a monkey in suit and pretend its not a monkey

I agree, why not just rebuild him? But with all of the Omnic Rights movements around the globe in OW, perhaps Omnics prefer to be left dead and not rebuilt if they’re destroyed? Maybe for them it is un-ethical? Or is thay not the right word for it…

First of all one thing that always wonders me is that, the guard heard Tracer on the channel and shooting, why not taking Mondatta from the back door and instead from between all those people with high level of insecurity? If he was an important man/machine why taking him in open space among all those people? I mean if it wasn’t Widow, someone else couldve easily destroyed him from the crowd. Like how Gandhi died.
Second thought is that, Tracer surely blames herself. Put yourself into her shoe, wouldn’t u blame urself if u had done such mistake toward one that u like among ur favorite persons irl? But that was just instinct. An act of instinct to survive. Surely she blames herself otherwise she wouldn’t be a hero.

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