I don’t see anyone asking for Tracer to be meta. We’re asking for her to not remain in the bottom 5 for another consecutive year. We’re asking for her to not be the second worst hero in Overwatch, which she currently is.
I should hope that you understand the difference between simply “not meta” and “second worst hero in Overwatch,” because it’s a pretty significant difference.
If you truly believe that it’s acceptable for a hero like Tracer to be niche, then I strongly encourage you to invest the 500 hours of practice necessary to play Tracer at a viable competitive level, putting in a good 10 hours a week with her to maintain your mechanics. Then tell me how you feel about her being mostly useless outside of stalling for the last 15 seconds of a round.
Tell me how fair that niche is once you can grasp it from a Tracer player’s perspective.
Taking a lot of hours to master doesnt mean that she will be good in all situations, there are things she will be good at, and things she will be bad at, its normal for all heroes
Where are you getting the “second worst hero in overwatch” From?
i just checked Overbuff, on the “GM” and “All” setting and she is in the 16th spot with a 2.19% pickrate and 52% winrate,
1.92% pickrate and 48% winrate on Masters
she has roughly 1.6% pickrate with a 49.88% winrate in diamond
This does not say “2nd worst hero” to me, anywhere
Remember, Tracers steep skill floor makes her practically useless for everyone who is not in the top ranks, Just like widow follows a similar trend (albeit her stats are higher because she is currently the meta=
This is not true come on, i have faced tracers and they can do quite well even at plat and QP
I just feel exhausted by Tracer threads at this point. I’ve been enduring this tired “Tracer is fine, the meta just doesn’t favor her” excuse for well over a year now.
Tracer was “fine” when she was a troll pick in double sniper. Tracer was “fine” when she was a troll pick in GOATS, which barely even existed on ladder. And now that Tracer is “fine” while being a troll pick in bunker, this excuse is starting to grow transparent like the lies of the boy who cried wolf.
Tracer was born to break bunkers. Can’t use the old “meta doesn’t favor her” excuse now, because there has never been a meta that should favor Tracer more. Her and Winston should be the ideal counter to the current meta, and yet…they suck.
Furthermore, the fact that Overwatch metas are best countered by mirroring is itself a mind-blowing balance issue for a game that’s supposedly about counters.
what part of her kit is born to destroy the bunker?
is walking behind the bunker with mobility and shooting them “Destroying bunker” ? because outside of her ultimate thats all she can do, and thats something all heroes can do, so i guess everyone counters bunker
At best she can pulse bomb in between them and try to get some kills, but with that logic every hero is a bunker buster too, because they can do that too
The 400 dmg sticky bomb, for starters. She used to eat bastions for lunch. Still can, though not nearly when he’s bunkered up with Torb auto aim and immortality field etc.
The key difference between all those heroes’ HP and Tracer’s HP is that she has Recall. That’s it.
Her whole gimmick revolves around dodging things and being hard to hit, which is in turn balanced out by her low health. This aspect of the character is balanced.
However, something does need to happen to bring her back up to par. I’d be for a Pulse Bomb revert, or just increasing its AoE damage, for one. But the best thing for Tracer would honestly be to tone down all the sustain in the game at the moment, like burst healing and what have you.
2-2-2 will probably let her see more play, but that system comes with its own problems, so meh.
Nerf hero who’s already on life support and only finding any success due to nanoboost by bringing his health down to the level of a hero who is already struggling, has regeneration and has actual mobility that allows you to dodge as opposed to make yourself easier to hit.
The issue with this is that, Pulse bomb buff only really changes the matchup against what, Orisa and Bastion?
i guess you can pulse bomb torbjorn and he cant surivive it with overload, but torb doesnt really do much against tracer, his turret does and you aint using pulse bomb on a turret
the rest of the matchups are probably going untoutched, your only killing two heroes which one is already extremely underperforming and the other has been trash for the grand mayority of the game
Especially in the current meta, what does it change against WIdow/Hanzo
Second worst winrate in Overwatch both this week and this month.
Third worst winrate over the last 6 months.
This month, she experiences a positive winrate ONLY AT GM.
This week specifically, she BARELY experiences a positive winrate ONLY AT GM.
You just cannot tell me this is okay.
Anecdotal experiences don’t have value in balancing discussions to be honest, and it’s largely theorized that good Tracers in low to mid ranks are generally smurfs or cheaters anyway.
Right, but when she was born Baptiste wasn’t here, Torb has had a rework and several tuning passes, as has Orisa now.
I’m not really advocating for her buffs however… except maybe give her old pulse bomb back.
I agree with many posts above… too many heroes got buffs/changes they didn’t need, but buffing Tracer is not the way to fix it. They need to look at the overarching power creep problem and make some changes.
Maybe increase the cd on certain heroes abilities, revert (at least partially) the rate of fire increase on McCree, perhaps remove the unneeded lunge that Hanzo received, etc
Again, a lot of people asking for the pulse bomb revert,
that change absolutely changed NOTHING other than making her not instakill bastion by pressing Q, which honestly, by how easy its to stick bastion, its only fair
(and dont come say “but he needs a rework anyways” devs said no more reworks)
and bastion is by far, not a problem right now in the current bunker meta,
Why is an ultimate killing one single hero too overpowered to have?
Is getting one single kill using your ultimate too much? We have ultimates from several heroes that can team wipe and people are still complaining about tracer getting one single kill with her ULT lol.
And even if they reverted it, some tanks will still survive the pulse bomb without dying.
Reapers ult generally is not that good vs heroes like dva winston, etc
do you expect tracers ult to be a 1 shot against everyone?
It simply wasnt fair for the character, there was almost no counterplay, and like you said below yourself:
In fact, all tanks will except zarya, who already has her bubble to tank it
so practically, its changing nothing other than making bastion a worst hero,
its funny that a lot of people here are using “indirect nerfs” and “Buffs to other heroes” hurting tracer as an argument, yet are buffing her in a way that damages directly another hero in the same way
Well the revert to AoE damage would actually allow her to get multi-kills again, especially when combined with other ultimates like Earthshatter or Grav.
It’s so frustrating when you Pulse Bomb a 5 person Grav and get ZERO kills. Like … that’s some hardcore #Feelsbadman.
But that wouldn’t fix her current state; you’re right. Like I said, burst healing and armor etc. is what really ruined Tracer. Which 2-2-2 should help with… at least that terrible system will have a silver lining. XD
