Torbjorn is not Brigitte's dad, genetics prove it!

Did you or did you not read the original post? This is about all of Torbjörn’s kids, not just Brigitte.

Hair color is not determined by a single pair of genes, and hair color is not set in stone as dominant/recessive.

Blonde hair’s recessive is solely dependent on a Brown/Blonde phenotype… this one is set in stone. But as soon as you add red into the mix, it all breaks.

Non-red/red is a whole other phenotype, and in it red hair is incomplete dominant meaning it blends with all other hair types.

Torb and Ingrid could have a very faintly strawberry blonde hair color, which can change to a straight blonde with age, and as long as both have the red allele, Brig gets red hair.

Or if she dyes her hair. I am a natural blonde but often dye my hair red.

My mom has blonde hair, my dad has brunette hair.
Neither I nor my sisters have brunette hair.

Most of their family also has red hair, which is very rare and unlikely.

Also they’re not his kids at all.
Torbjorn just wandered in one day and was like
welp, this looks good.
hello family.
but i care more about my turrets.

You’re missing one vital and important element to your reasonings.

…what if they were fictional characters? :thinking:

Lots of brunettes and even redheads bleach their hair. You can also get genetics from grandparents. Genetics mingle all over the place.

But Keith Silverstein said in a Youtube video “I’m not a dwarf” in Torbjörn’s voice. So that means he isn’t a dwarf, right?

Not to sound like a “boink” but I find it hard to believe that red hair is dominant over blond simply because of it’s rarity. You can say what you will about Dom and Res traits but at the end of the day there are far more blonde haired people then reds, even Africans can be blonde naturally. Just by the numbers i kind of have to assume what you said is a little BS.

I mean if it was dominant then why wouldn’t almost everyone have it then like black hair?

The recessive version (Morquio Syndrome) is a 1 in 200,000-250,000 whereas the dominant (Achon) version is roughly 1 in every 25,000. It’s not that much more rare, 8-10x, so we shouldn’t just rule that out. Still though, if he does have Achon, then Reinhardt might want to fess-up now.

For a moment I thought “They’d never do that.” then I remembered they just made 76 gay for literally no reason, Diablo Immortal is a thing and that Bungie has now broken up with Actiblizz so these bastards will do anything.

Red hair is “incomplete dominant”. This means it is neither dominant, nor recessive.

Because hair color isn’t just one gene, it’s 2+(?) it’s unknown if there’s a third/fourth/fifth gene that influences hair color spectrum, it’s not as simple as assigning red hair a dominant or recessive gene.

Incomplete dominant means that red hair “blends” into other hairs.

  • Dark brown/black - Brown/Brown, with Red allele either present but latent, or not present at all.
  • Light brown – Brown/Red or Brown/Blonde, Red allele present, Red blends with Brown
  • Strawberry blonde – Blonde/Blonde, Red allele present, Red blends with Blonde (even though Blonde is recessive to Brown)
  • Platinum blonde – No Red allele present at all
  • Red hair – Red/Red only

(this doesn’t account for all hair colors, but it shows how Red hair incomplete dominance screws with Punnett Squares)

dwarism can be treated with human growth hormone, it has shown to make normal sized children from dwarf parents. In the future this tech would have only gotten better. Not to mention gene editing embroys.

so, this science you posted was at best applicable to the late 20th century

It’s possible to edit the human genome today. The method is called CRISPR-Cas9.

The process has potential applications in;

  • Crops and livestock (e.g. increasing yield, introducing resistance to disease and pests, tolerance of different environmental conditions)
  • Industrial biotechnology (e.g. developing ‘third generation’ biofuels and producing chemicals, materials and pharmaceuticals)
  • Biomedicine (e.g. pharmaceutical development, xenotransplantation, gene and cell-based therapies, control of insect-borne diseases)
  • Reproduction (e.g. preventing the inheritance of a disease trait)

Seeing as Overwatch is set in 2070, it is highly possible for the CRISPR-Cas9 method has been improved to the point where doing this is safe, and does not compromise the human DNA.

Given the fact that Torbjorn and Ingrid would potentially love their child even if they had dwarfism, it would likely mean that she was born with both reccessive traits.

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In a world where Moira is able to literally Crtl-alt-del your genetic code and undo mitosis I think it’s safe to say Brig could very well be a designer baby made to avoid his dwarfism that or Torb may not have dwarfism at all, his parents could both just be short.

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Do we have an exact measure of Torb’s height? Because he could just be short instead of a dwarf. Plus dwarfism is caused by over 200 conditions and I don’t think all of them are genetic

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Ok thanks for clarifying.

I did a thread about this a while ago as I have a lot of lore in my head.

Basically I concluded that Reinhardt is her father. I think she knows subconsciously but has not discussed it with her parents obviously.

I also concluded that Soldier 76 is not gay but following orders as part of a covert military operation. Again, it makes sense as he finds his sense of identity in following orders.

Ironically the two gay characters with the most loving relationship are Roadhog and Junkrat. They are a couple but it won’t be revealed only inferred.

Torb is apparently not a dwarf. He is just of small stature.

Finally Hammond is sexually attracted to capybaras. These are the largest rodents in the world. They are slightly bigger than him but he doesn’t mind.

All of this LORE makes sense.

Except you’re leaving out the most important part:

Just because it’s improbable, doesn’t make it impossible.

Yes, statistically most, if not half, of Torbjörn’s children should have dwarfism while the others are normal height, but assuming that Torbjörn’s gene is Heterozygous, it’s possible for all of his children to be normal height.

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Scars can be with you all life, if you got deep wounds… For example I have scar on my chest 20 years already. Don’t mind it.

You can made another surgery and delete you scars, but is it so necessary?