Tone down Doomfist please

[InTheDesert-1983]

As a support main, nothing has made me wanna quit overwatch more than doomfist, even brig and having my main nerfed into the ground

[stormlord199-1672]

Speech 200 I was typing on a laptop which I’m not good at. Character 29,

[SlayerAdam-21497]

Well, stop being a CC hero, you can have CC immunity too.

[Sinpai-21389]

Doomfist isn’t OP, just frustrating to play against. Please don’t confuse the two.

[DogBert02-1352]

oh, sorry then
get rid of character caps bliz

[airwalker-11432]

And your constant hate fuels the punches Doomfist throws at people. Yours specifically, Slayer. Nobody else’s.

[BT160507-15990]

yeah his kit is the problematic thing , combine with his dmg output ,stunt,lock and escape mechanics you have a overwhelming hero like brigg he needs a rework enterely

Brig has 1 stun, which once burned leaves her with no mobility at all.

Almost everything Doom does is a stun ability AND a movement ability AND a self heal!!!

And as Brig I would say DF is a huge counter to her because when they meet she stuns him while he uppercuts her, while in the air Brig has 1 attack that can reach DF while he still has his entire kit available.

Heck even his Ult, its the absolute best mobility attack in the game, cant be cancelled, and he is 100% invincible while using it!!

I mean at very least he should not have so much range on his blaster, his character design would suit a bull whip and black leather mask much better IMO.
He screams S&M.

[TheMaelstrom-11479]

but rein needs cc resistance not immunity

[TheRoseEXP-1936]

This is the worst post I’ve ever read on this forum

[TheRoseEXP-1936]

You’ve clearly never played Doomfist.

[TrashSombra-1128]

If Doomfist had been added to the game as he is now, I guarantee he would have been on the chopping block immediately. By far, he has the most obnoxious design in the entire game, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. People just don’t want to accept he’s badly-designed, and especially overtuned, because he’s been F-tier for so long. Same thing happened to Junkrat when he became meta. The difference is, not anybody can just pick up Doomfist and do well, so it’s less apparent that’s he’s too strong and flat-out obnoxious.

[BT160507-15990]

then it need a power nerf cause a one shot skill on such a low cooldown is horrible gameplay balance

Especially because it also puts enemies out of position and stuns them while it also “heals” DF.
Arent those benefits enough? Seems odd to have a stun that OHK most of the cast, why stun what you just killed?

Could remove the stun aspect or bring its damage down to say 180?

Not that it would be an issue for him, his blaster does 200DMG in 1 second with no falloff, lol. Pretty easy to get that last 20-70 DMG in on a stunned target IMO.

Mcree and Brig’s biggest complaints that I have seen are their stuns, and they do about 5-10 times less damage yet lead to kill often enough because stuns are very powerful in this game.

That said it feels like uppercut can have the longest duration of “movement stun”
and adding a say 1-2 second limit to this effect would be reasonable.

Those chars above with stuns last 1 second or less, DF movement lock lasts based on height.

[BT160507-15990]

Doomfist players barley use it to deal damage and use it mostly for mobility

LOL, this is the JR mine excuse all over again.

RP is just for mobility right? So chopping its damage so its not instant OHK is ok right?

Actually I would be fine with DF having an extra ability use on any of his abilities if their effect was reduced in CC/DMG.

Maybe a spare slot he can use for one more use of any ability currently on CD?

Basically an extra ability on a CD that is able to reduce a chosen CD to zero.

Not sure if blaster range would need to change then?

[AtomicTom-21215]

Buff Roadhog and the whole problem solves itself.

[UnstableNPC-1158]

i have to agree he has so much mobility/stun/power its ridiculously OP in capable hands to the point the only thing you can do is freeze or hack him to stop the slaughter and actually kill him

[Sib-11803]

I feel there is no counter play to Doomfist.

• His movement is slightly slower than Genji’s
• He OHK in 1.5 seconds, not enough time to out-burst-dmg him
• Helped by his HP and HP buff he is even harder to out-burst.
• He is invulnerable during his ultimate (which was not acceptable for Mercy but Doomfist is okay)
• Has CC on most of his ability to prevent any counter play involving movement.

So if you can’t move, can’t out damage him and can’t react fast enough to kill him during his movement… what counter-play is left?

I understand he needs to be mobile and tanky since he is a melee range, but that makes him boring to play against because there is nothing left to do when he dives you.

[BT160507-15990]

You sure? because his uppercut and slam has 7 seconds, you used his rocket punch as a source of damage. If you use all of them, then you have no other way to escape just to sit there waiting on cooldowns becoming a shooting target.

4 second cooldown man.
RP in (Sometimes securing a kill and stacking 35 shields)
By then he needs to survive 3 seconds before using RP again and still has 2 CC/Self heal/Movement abilities!!
Even Uppercut alone will burn up at least 1 second, especially with unloading your blaster mid air to deal 200 DMG in 1 sec, then leap slam and you have less then 1 second to survive before you can use RP again, and have also accumulated upwards of 100 additional shields! (If you can aim huge AOE attacks, lol)

Seeings how people struggle with hitting genji simply double jumping around its foolish to think people are sniping DF while he flies around the map 3-5 times faster then Pharah while implementing an exaggerated version of Genji’s up/down erratics.

Maybe in top 500 or something.

But lol, if you can not survive even 3 seconds with all his CC and self heals I am not sure its the char design IMO.

I dont play DF, but see them all the time and he took genji’s old role or going 1v6 and still securing kills while escaping anytime he wants. (Not that he seems to usually need to because of all his self heals and CC and insane mobility make him hard to kill if the player is managing his CD’s well)

[BT160507-15990]

I am a Reinhardt main in plat, ive been getting into doomfist lately learning the ins and outs of him, what makes Doomfist well, Doomfist is his mobility. he doesn’t have a deflect like Genji or a recal like tracer or a wraith like Reaper, Doomfist in my opinion is being kept alive by his mobility so taking that away from him or putting it on a higher cool down will inevitably put him back down to F tier

Except you know, all his self heals and CC, dont those help keep him alive at all?
If not maybe they should be removed?

[HermaeusMora-21774]

Except you know, all his self heals and CC, dont those help keep him alive at all?

Not at all.
As someone with, a fair chunk of my time being on Doomfist, his shields are very easy to burn through, as he usually gets at most 70 shield per dive. He’s more for the one shot then quickly escape, with the shield being there to prevent one shot combos from finishing him off after he secures a kill.

Although he needs bug fixes, not retunes. I’m open to a tank rework though, although I don’t think he needs it.

[BT160507-15990]

Im going to get some hate for this, but I think nerfing his hand cannon would solve the problem.

Seriously, that thing does insane damage. I’ve been two-shot by his gun alone a couple times before. Just go to the practice range and see how much damage it can do. He can out-damage a lot of dps with his gun

Hey its only 400DMG in one second, and that requires headshots.

Its not like he has a way to make characters stand still for a full second + to use it completely…Oh wait he can do that in multiple ways NVM.