It’s simple. You know all those annoying insta-lock DPS and one-trick DPS players you keep complaining about? Most of them are not going to learn to flex. They’re going to throw every single time they’re forced to play a tank or support. They’re going to leave as many games as they can to avoid playing them as well.
Leaving and throwing will peak like never before. But whatever. Go ahead and do it, Blizzard. Force 2-2-2. I will enjoy Overwatch either way now, because I am learning to play as many heroes as I can. I am good at at-least 2 heroes from each role. It wont ruin my game, but it’s going to REALLY suck for others.
oh my GOD it’s a ROLE QUEUE YOU GET TO CHOOSE THE ROLE YOU WANNA PLAY.
And since it also implies role SR that means if a dps wants to play healer or tank they get put at a rank suitable for their role.
At least read the other topics before opening yet another one.
If they add 2-2-2 you will pick your role before queueing. So tank mains can stay tank. Bad dps will drop fast. Flex players will have shortest queue times.
Then you probably shouldn’t queue up for a role you hate playing that much…
Just like the time they limited the hero limit and ruined the game? Yeah, people warned them about that and they did it and it really killed the game. Don’t implement 2-2-2. Even if the devs said it would be easier to balance like when they added the hero limit, it would ruin the game again.
What makes you think that? What makes you think that bad dps will do anything but continue being bad dps?
What this boils down to, is that the dps slots are going to be linchpins for winning or losing. In the same sense that some games come down to who is the better Widow or Hanzo, 2-2-2 games are going to come down to whose dps sucked the least.
And it wont matter how good the tanks & supports are on either side, if the opponents DPS are really good and yours are awful, you will get steamrolled by them, because your comp has no firepower.
The whole problem this forum has been whining about for years now is the sheer number of bad dps players, but forcing 2-2-2 is going to suffer for them just as much. It wont fix the problem at all.
You know how many times in QP I have had a decent comp, but our 2-3 DPS weren’t carrying their weight, so I switched to a 3rd or 4th DPS like Hanzo or Bastion and it made all the difference? It happens more often than I’d prefer.
Actually, while I was practicing D.Va for awhile, I started getting frustrated, because I kept having to do that.
I’ll be okay in forced 2-2-2, not just because I can competently play half the roster now, but also because I don’t derive my fun from winning. So when I’m playing D.Va or Moira and our crappy DPS duo is costing us the game, I’ll just focus on doing the very best I can, have fun doing it, take the loss, and hope the next game is different. Either way, I’ll have fun, because Overwatch is genuinely fun.
I’ll say that again, Overwatch is genuinely fun. The playerbase is the problem, from the bad DPS to the entitled spoiled supports. Everyone derives their fun on winning, so when they lose, they act like they just wasted 5-15 minutes of their life, instead of actually enjoying the game regardless of outcome. That’s why the game seems so bad to so many people. THEY are the problem and want to point fingers at anything but themselves.
I love that there are still people who are quite vocal about being against forced 222, but I really don’t get the sudden rise in posts suggesting that people will be forced to queue for roles they don’t want in the first place.
My problem is that I want to change my role during a match, or at the very least, choose my role based on what map we’re playing on. So I’m screwed.
But if you know you want to play dps, there is literally no situation where you can be “forced” to queue for tank/support.
Nobody is forcing anybody to pick a role. I don’t think people understand what it means to be “forced” to do something. It means without another choice. Role queue gives you 3 choices which then leads to even more choices. Nobody can force you to do anything except play 2-2-2 structure. You can still pick a role.
Role-based sr wont stop throwers from ruining matches at every rank. Just because you don’t do it doesn’t mean there isn’t and endless number doing it in many of your matches. Thus, match integrity will not change at all no matter what restrictions the devs try to put in place. Role queue will only serve to give these players two more options to troll you with.
Yes, it was such a huge success that they now want to restrict it even further because…
IT REALLY DIDN’T CHANGE ANYTHING!
And neither will forced team compositions. How far are you people willing to go?
“Forced” might not be 100% accurate, based on its literal definition, but lets look at your “choices”:
Pick Tank or Support and get into a game, in a reasonable amount of time
Pick DPS and wait up to a half hour to get into a match (also, pray it doesnt get cancelled, because itll be another 30 minutes to find a new one)
So, play a role you dont want to play, just so you dont have to wait forever for a match. Or, play what you want (DPS) and throw on some Netflix, because its going to be a long wait.
Well that’s why i’m against 222 entirely. But framing it as being forced to queue for a role you didn’t want in the first place is the wrong argument to make here.
The initial choice is always yours, the problem lies in forcing you to make that choice before you have all the info you need, and it not letting you change that choice if needed.
Today I learned that people are amazing individuals who never lie or be dishonest. who would have thought.
I highly doubt those people are going to accept the long queue times. No, they’ll pick a tank or support for the sake of a quicker time and then play them like DPS or screw around with little experience and make everyone else annoyed.
No. 2 2 and 2 is fine, they will probably do it because most people cry. But they would have to reset the whole SR system and there is no reason to do role sr, its absolutley pointless
I agree. Role SR would actually be really smart. I mean, i’m an awful tank but i’m actually decent at both dps and healz. I would feel much better if I played those with different SR to make it a more even match. Plus it would be much easier to balance heroes when only doing one style comp.
who would have thought.