So…your saying u had that many hours with ball yet the ONLY time u were useful with him was when the enemy was near a cliff so u could boops them?
Thats kinda like if they took away pharahs boop i would be totaly useless with her…
Ofc, every one got used to the old boop and positioned themselves accordingly so now when its weaker they have a good safety margin to the edge.
Meanwhile I’m still having fun with ball and the other tanks 
As a Ball main: It really isn’t that bad a nerf? I still manage to boop enough people off the map, and to be fair, only KoTH has enough areas to do so. All the other modes still need the same playstyle and although he does not have that much knockback anymore, you can still juggle teams around.
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Yeah and turn game into generalistic pew pew even more 
The hyper mobility , hyper CC, Strong barriers, Heroes for new players, Unique characters, Open Queue - its what was Overwatch, its what was making it interesting and fun
Now we have hard hitscan focused shooter, and it… sucks
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Or just find a middle ground… Pretty crazy, right?
Ah yes… The hyper mobility… Which was and still is so bad that the entire game almost got destroyed after a hero was implemsnted just and only to counter said heroes’ ridiculousness and the comps that they enabled.
Or the hyper CC, which, out of everything else, has made Tanking an unplayable mess so many times until now.
Strong barriers, or should I say, enablers of arguably the most boring META in this game’s history.
Heroes for new players, which have historically been either useless or “low skill = high reward”.
Unique characters… Very often a synonym for badly - designed ones, that is.
And who can forget Open Queue, a system that tanked so hard that it was removed completely for almost an entire year.
Yeah, if that’s what Overwatch is, then it’s a pretty mediocre game, just to be blunt.
And did anyone say otherwise?
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Nah you just don’t get free kills anymore. If you don’t kill them, they were not “next to the edge.” They were “at least 10 meters away from the edge” which is not “next to the edge” lmao.
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Wrong. Ball has a stronger boop than Brig and Winston.
Gonna throw some science in your face from my own testing and workshops
Lúcio
- Soundwave sits about 10 meters but can fluctuate between about 8.5 - 10.5 depending if he was looking up or down when casting
Things that affect it: - If the enemy was moving against the direction of the knockback
- You were looking up or down when cast
Brigitte
- Whip Shot sits exactly 7.5
Things that affect it - Nothing other than Reinhardt’s passive
Junkrat
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Concussion mines go about 15 meters regardless of range
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Ball Grapple goes about 10.5 meters
Pharah
- Blast goes about 10 meters
Things to note:
- Tends do push enemies a bit horizontally
- Pushes enemies the same distance regardless how close they were to the explosion
D.Va
- Boosters go about 5 meters
Ashe Coach Gun
- From 0-10 meters launches the enemy 10 meters regardless of any horizontal angle
- 10.1 to about 12 meters send them about 8 meters
- 12 - 15 meters scales down to 1 meter
- 15+ meters no knockback
Winston
- Jump Pack deals 1-2 meters knockback
Ball still has the best boop with the most damage and 5 second Cooldown. Just cuz the enemy didn’t die means you hit them against their momentum.
Not sayin i like almost all boops relatively similar, but it is what we have
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The change was absolutely stupid. Getting booped by the Ball is annoying, but that’s his speciality. Knowing spots where you can boop players of the map, when to go for them and so on was the whole idea of Ball. It’s also a very counterable and interactive mechanic with other players
I say revert that change and make his temporary shields consistent with other temporary shield in the game. That would be way better for him
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They just have a hate bias against ball and will believe whatever they want to in order to justify their biased thinking.
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Junk trap, McCree Stun, Sombra hack, brig bash and flail, lucio boop, echo and pharah flying over it, sleep dart, mei wall, rein pin, staying out of range and shooting his massive hitbox are just some painfully obvious examples that come to mind.
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Don’t use a ball revert to bandwagon support for an equally stupid and moronic change.
whats next ult charge for shooting Zarya bubbles?
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What’s next Cree’s ultimate just shoots himself in the head? That’s as relevant question as yours
All the abilities in the game should be consistent with each other depending on the category and nature of the game. That’s all there is to the change. He needs to be tuned down regardless after the revert so the change would be good for him since it would highlight his flaw instead of destroying his core gameplay mechanics. Just a plain revert is out of the question and nerfing any other aspect of his kit would be the stupidest thing you could do to him considering how mediocre his entire kit is and how nerfing mine duration would be almost irrelevant nerf. Making his temporary shields work like they should is the correct way to change him one way or the other regardless. If he gets overnerfed then they can even buff something else in his kit
I don’t think Hammond’s shields depleting over time would really mean anything. If they depleted at the rate of Sigma’s or Doomfist’s, he would lose like 100 before the ability timed out and he loses everything.
Also, did I mention the ability times out? Hammond loses his temporary shields way faster than Sigma or Doomfist do because of that mechanic.
Tracer isnt Hitscan.
by definition she is, but she doesnt play like one at all
shes closer to a Genji then to a Widowmaker or McCree
Hmm… wonder why Tank queues are instant and Damage queues are ten minutes 
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What are you talking about? I get Dps Q to pop in 1 minute less! Tank Q is like 15 minutes… The game ios going great. 
sigh I can dream
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As a DPS and Tank player, I get a clear view of both sides. Tank balance is pretty bad, DPS is overall quite strong (not the one I play, lol…)
Hope we see some better Tanks soon
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Were they like 20 metres away from the cliff?