I love playing kiri but come on we cannot shave 2 seconds off the best cooldown in the game, if anything it needs a longer cooldown or nerfed to not have both iframes and 90 heal (preferably nerf the heal because the iframes is the interesting part of it)
Far from it…
Yeah no. nerf it anymore and it’d be useless, it’s already at fifteen seconds and is her only self peel outside healing a team mate, the invul part is the fraction of a second so blink once and it’s gone and 90 heal is basically nothing for a DPS to shave off easy as heck
Best duelist? She is FAR from the best duelist. Idk what you are smoking to believe that. If anything I would say Vendetta holds that title until she is properly nerfed instead of tiny changes that does little to solve her issues.
2 tap on HEADSHOTS on 225 or less HP heroes and her projectiles are not massive, you miss far more than you ever hit.
I like Anran, but she just isn’t my style. I don’t really care for her design too much.
Although fair point made about Genji lol
Hopefully I am the type of Genji that kills everything.
lololol point made definitely
Hey at least I’m being honest. I’m biased ok? 
At least I’m not one of those guys who say we should like give Kiri invulnerability for the first 2 seconds of her Ult so it’s impossible to die at the start of it and completely waste it. lol those people are crazy.
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Name three buttons better than suzu. Also you can’t say her only self peel and then instantly mention another method of self peel (mindless medic passive) and somehow forgot about teleport (another top 5 button btw)
Both requiring team mates within a certain distance to be utilised mind you. And why would I bother naming other abilities when you aren’t gonna change your mind anyway?lol Suzu has been nerfed time and time again and it’s nowhere near as powerful as people make it out to be
Suzu is only as good as the person using it so…
0.6 seconds of invulnerability.
It gets better as you climb in skill level.
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well no, she now has less of an ability to retreat after a flank so shell be doing less damage.
the changes purely promote a healbot playstyle. the devs do not play their game.
you were supposed to be there though.
its only bad if you get punished for it.
they didnt.
Anti-Nade, Sleep Dart, and Defense Matrix.
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Please read this out loud to yourself three times in a row and think about what you are saying. Novel concept but positioning is important! Also you’re right I’m not going to change my mind on suzu being the best button in the game (it is) but I want to try to comprehend the lens you see the game through so I can understand why you think kiri is somehow bad.
I can see an argument for matrix being better than suzu. My top three is suzu, matrix, sleep in that order, nade is right outside the top 3 and would probably be two maybe one if suzu didn’t exist
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Definitely not, I’m dealing damage fine.
Sorry that this change makes your playstyle difficult if not impossible. My suggestion is to find a different playstyle where you can see both your team and the enemy from a vantage point that creates an off angle. This is how she is supposed to be used.
Healbotting is not what I do. I deal nearly as much damage as I’m putting out in heals. Sometimes equal, sometimes half. The ratio of damage to healing never drops below 1 to 2 though. The healing animation is now much faster and more fluid allowing you to spend MORE time to chuck kunai.
Says you, the person who didn’t develop the game.
I guess you would know more than them, right?
You would understand what she was designed to better than them. This definitely isn’t Blizzard nerfing a play style so that Kirikos stop terrorizing the enemy team flanking and not supporting their team by using her entire kit constantly by utilizing the proper play style.
And now you are getting punished for it so I guess that means it is bad?
Boohoo for you and your opinion I guess.
crazy assumptions for 1 and 2 playing in a position where you can see both teams, and be on an off angle is practically non existent.
the devs barely developed their game. half the team has left and been replaced you fool.
short answer here is yes, the people that play the game typically have a better understanding of how to play it.
what she was designed to do is irrelevant. what she has been doing for the past 3 years is what matters.
well no, you just have to win the duels you take.
its not an opinion. its an objective nerf.
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This quote deserves to be permanently pinned at the top of every “anti Kiriko thread” and we should shave the CD of Suzu by .01 seconds for every tear that is shed in them.
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I haven’t logged in yet so I don’t have a serious opinion, but a straight 40% buff to her HPS seems crazy high to me
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It does exist. Go find it like I did.
Watch some videos or something. You can create an off angle by being in the middle of both teams and being up on a ledge.
Oh so I guess it wasn’t a single group of people working on each hero and they definitely don’t leave behind the intentions for a hero’s playstyle anywhere.
Why would do something like that?
Okay well I guess we will all now listen to you.
Because you know better.
But there are DPS heroes kitted to do this way better and the Supports should be Supporting?
So what you’re saying is you want to play 1/3/1 instead of 1/2/2. Huh… it’s almost like you’re telling me why Blizzard is against it. Crazy
Oh okay. I was mistaken, sorry.
You being somewhere where half of your kit is going unused isn’t bad positioning. It’s Blizzard not knowing what this hero is supposed to be used for.
Got it.
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I would argue that kiriko and Ana or zen are the only support heroes that’s fun to play if you’re coming from dps. And yes, all three come with carry potential. But if you’re not a support main, would you really try moira,mercy,lw or even Juno??? I personally don’t find them as fun although they’re not bad especially Juno…I would want more heroes like Ana kiriko or zen, and less like mercy play style where you just healbot it’s extremely boring. So if anything i wish we had more heroes similar to those 3. Edit:illari is also fun to play
I just checked your profile and it says silver. forgive me but I’m just gonna go ahead and not take positioning advise from you
or I could continue to do what got me to gm like 9 years ago. fell to masters last season but ill be back soon enough.
yes. this is unironically the view the devs should have. listen to the players.
supporting =/= healing.
killing a threat before someone needs healing from them both denies them ult charge and keeps your allies hp high.
supports have aways been dps that can heal, I really dont get the point youre trying to make here.
who says unused? not used 100% of the time is not the same as something being unused.
it is though. kiri is a dps that can heal passively through a perk and has a cleanse. even before the perks she was just a dps that could heal.
watch any high ranked kiri play. I promise you, they will being doing damage and playing on off angles if not hard flanking.
I don’t think it’s a wise idea to admit that a Silver player can do something better than you can if you care about those things.
Also check my Win Rate on Kiri at my “Silver” I believe it’s 71% so obviously I don’t belong there LOL
Not with that attitude. I’m fairly new to the game and I learn to do new things all the time. You should always be able to improve and adapt or else you will just be free falling on the skill ladder.
About how a hero should be played that’s a support and not a dedicated flanker? I don’t think anybody should listen to that nonsense lol
Here’s a thought now. Can we do both simultaneously? I can, but can you? It doesn’t sound like it tbh. I wonder how you even made it to GM if you can’t do this. Must have gotten boosted.
That’s the only thing that makes sense.
It’s crazy because you sound like you want to be the dps that can heal but chooses not to.
Oh ok I didn’t know you couldn’t just be somewhere where you could do both 100% of the time. The opportunity may not always present itself, but that’s the best situation for Kiriko to support her team.
The Kiriko videos I’ve seen they talk about taking off angles where you can heal. Her Ofuda range is pretty crazy. 35m actually.
I wonder why they did that….
She was designed specifically as a dps/support hybrid, they said this when she released.
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I dont think its wise to assume silver players can punish poor positioning. you aren’t playing against people that are good enough to require you to position well.
sort of. positioning is a core concept that doesn’t really change. whats good is good and always will be good.
then stay silver. it does not affect me.
yes. at a severely diminished value. what you are saying would be true for ana. not for kiriko.
by winning more games than I lost, playing independently and getting kills other supports in the same rank would be too busy healing to go for.
there it is. you’re upset I brought rank into it and resorted to insults.
yep. it takes time but you’ll figure out that heal botting is pretty worthless.
you cant though.
no, its not. you are wrong.
once a fight actually breaks out most of the team would be in basically in the same position anyway. but during the pre and post fight, you want to be doing damage.
I said watch gameplay. not someone explaining how to play kiriko. watch a good kiriko play kiriko.
no, the range is unlimited. the tracking is 35m.