It’s not that teamwork shouldn’t be a thing, I think it’s necessary. I’m simply saying players are chained to each other, and the good players can’t escape at a natural rate to where they should be at
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And this is why Elo hell exists in Overwatch. Some heroes can carry super hard (God Widows, Genji’s and Tracer’s in particular,) but most can not. Crit-capables are more able to carry than non crit-capables because of their potential DPS (which is bonkers high.) Seldom few exceptions exist, one of them being Brigitte in particular because people can’t fathom keeping beyond 7m distance and taking her out.
Some heroes are even so tied to the hip to their team that arguably when they look like they’re carrying is when their team would have won without them anyway. Looking at Reinhardt here. I never felt like I carried as him even when I get a bunch of gold medals and stomp the enemy team, it always felt like bullying lesser players in hindsight.
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So you never saw any of the bronze to gm challenges on youtube?
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To be fair OP I’d argue anyone can occasionally have an ‘on’ game where they completely wreck the enemy and thus, ‘carry’ their team.
blizzard nerfing roadhog was the biggest mistake.
the best counter to the flankers and dive tanks was roadhog, them nerfing him created dive meta.
them nerfing roadhog essentially created the need for the community to have moira and brigitte.
1 if not the best solo carry ever was roadhog 1.0.
imagine without his nerf tis game would have been so much better
Oh yeah, if carrying doesn’t exist, how did I get that box from downstairs to my room upstairs huh? That’s what I thought.
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The fix to this is simple. Increase Overall utility and power of all characters. Remove Ults.
This of course will never happen, so deal with it.
Old Hog was anti anything. He never lost any 1v1 against any hero. He could oneshot everyone up to Zarya. Thats also one of the reasons we had triple tank in season 3, because Roadhog could just hook to get a free pick.
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You sure mate? Pharmercy is carrying every game she is, in console.
Good. Carrying shouldn’t be a thing in this game. The whole point is to have your team work as one unit at all times. Being able to kill stuff is a skill, but so is teamwork, and I think that should be rewarded far more than individual skill.
They honestly need to destroy Widow for this reason. No hero should be able to single-handedly destroy an enemy team without an ult. I don’t care about the skill involved, since pros have demonstrated that it is humanly possible, and it just destroys the whole design of the game.
I agree with you slightly I believe that carrying exists but you have to meet a few credentials.
You are contributing the most to the team.
The enemy is letting you get away with it.
Take a good widowmaker for example. She can carry a team easily if unchecked.
A player playing below their actual skill level and dominating others is not a surprise.
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If you are doing your job AND someone else’s then you are carrying. If you are just doing your job through virtue of your teammates doing theirs then no not carrying, just doing what you signed up to do. On a kill streak and the whole team is staying alive? Its more likely the support is carrying if anything.
Even that technically isn’t carrying, that’s just the enemy team being really bad at counter-picking.
no such thing? kill the player who is getting consistent picks on the enemy side and keep them dead and you’ll see how wrong that statement is.
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From what you have just typed, you can also say that the DPS is the one carrying. The support is basically just doing his/her job while the DPS wreck havoc ; carrying. The DPS killed the enemy before they could kill our team so it’s probably the DPS who carried if anything.
If a team fight breaks out and no one on your team died in what is an even fight then no that wasn’t down to the dps, you would have died during that fight had your support not been on their A-game.
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I can also say that if the DPS players didn’t play well, your team would not get a kill and you would lose the team fight. It goes both ways.
Chances are yes, but its quite east for other roles to pick up DPS slack, the other way around not so much. It does go both ways but not as easily.
Nah. If it was really easier, people would not be complaining about how they can’t climb as support or tank.