The support class is unbalanced as hell

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@scarrken-1992

Healing done by Supports reduced by 20%

I don’t think you realize how “radical” these changes are. Okay, so here are the new numbers that the supports would have if this change were to go through.

Mercy: 36 hp/s
Zenyatta: 24 hp/s
Lucio: 12.8 hp/s
Moira: 68 hp/s
Ana: 60 hp/s
Brigitte: 120 hp/s

Especially looking at Zen and Mercy, that would hamper what they are capable of doing. Much of what Mercy does is healing anyways, and under this change she, a main healer, would only heal 6 points higher than Zen, an off healer, does now. Ana would heal as much as Mercy does now which goes against what the devs have said (that they want to buff her healing if they tweak her balance) and would make her healing less rewarding. Overall, this change just would not bode well for anyone, the healer or the healed.

@scarrken-1992

Ana

• Simple. reduce her cooldowns by at least 2 seconds each.
  And give her the Shrike passive from HotS (heals a small amount each successful shot)

I don’t play Ana all that much, but these changes seem pretty good.

@scarrken-1992

Brigitte
The Ability That Everyone Hates™

• No longer stuns, instead it “cripples”. This means it disables movement abilites and gives a slow effect (I guess it could be as much as 1 or 2 Sym turrets) for about 3 seconds.
  Repair Pack
• No longer overheals into armor, cooldown reduced by 1 second.

First off, for the Repair Pack, the armor overheal only lasts 5 seconds and it can also be bursted down. Her Repair Pack is best used when someone is critical so you’re complaining about the wrong thing. Honestly, I am not surprised that you are not complaining about the armor Rally provides.

I wouldn’t mind trying the change for her bash, but ultimately, I don’t think this is what she needs. I don’t really have a reason for it. It’s more of a feeling.

@scarrken-1992

Lúcio
Read the whole thing before raging at me.

• Health reduced from 200 to 150.
• Self healing is no longer reduced.
• Wall Ride is now on a resource meter, but now grants him more speed. 2s delay before recharging, discourages spamming Wall Leap instead of actually riding.
• Sonic Amp.: Proj speed increased from 50 to 120, damage reduced from 20 to 19. Boop now cripples for 1s, same as Brig, but shorter.
• Amp it up replaced by Boombox (from HotS). He places a boombox which plays a duplicate of Crossfade (stacking). Song can be changed independently from Crossfade by using Interact. Has 50% more range than Crossfade, up to 2 can be on the battlefield. 8s CD, 200HP, 15s max duration.
• Sound Barrier: Barriers increased from 500 to 600, decay reduced from 83.33 to 60 (6s > 10s). Barriers no longer feed Ultimate charge. Grants an extra charge of Boombox, that goes away if you run out of barrier.

The Sound Barrier buff is fine, but the rest is just…He doesn’t need nerfs right now. If anything, he needs buffs, and even then, the devs have gone on record to say that they don’t think Lucio needs buffs. That his relevancy, along with Genji’s, is dependent on the meta. The wall ride resource meter will nerf his mobility where his most notable feature is his speed and how difficult it is to hit him, and the nerf to his HP guts his survivability too. The buff to his ult is the only one in this list that he needs.

@scarrken-1992

Mercy

• Staff Healing reduced by an additional 20% on top of the global reduction.
• Regeneration CD. increased from 1s to 1.75s, GA CD increased from 1.5s to 1.75s.
• Ressurect: Cast time reduced by 1s, is now interrupted by taking at least 5 damage. If that’s the case, it goes on a 10s cooldown.
• Valk: Wings now are part of her hitbox. No longer chain beams. Now increases staff healing and damage boost, and grants an extra Res charge. Duration 15s > 8s.

So, as I mentioned before, her new healing under this change is 36 hp/s which guts the main reason you would pick her in the first place (high, consistent healing). The nerfs to GA and Regen nerf her survivability when those are her only real options to get out. Mercy is always flying around on GA even with its current cooldown of 1.5s. The interruption to Rez is kinda redundant since if she is taking 5 points of dmg during Rez, she’s gonna take the other 195 soon after anyways since people always need to hunt her down. And the changes to Valk make it even more of a risky and lackluster ult. My thoughts on this may change if you provide numbers on how much her healing and dmg boost would be, though.

@scarrken-1992

Moira
Pass. She’s perfectly balanced.

Let her heal through barriers, and we’ll be agreeing there.

@scarrken-1992

Zen
Both orbs have a 6s cooldown, but they’re more effective.

How would you make them more effective? If you mean let his Harmony heal more and Discord damage more, that contradicts the global healing nerf from before. Even so, the cooldown is unjustified. What if he wants to orb the Hanzo but the Mercy jumps in front of him and so Mercy gets the orb? Well, Hanzo better survive for six seconds. There is no reason to put his orbs on a cooldown. Zen is one of the most balanced heroes in the game imo. He doesn’t need buffs or nerfs.