So you are the OPs problem.
You jump in his games and consistently beat him, thus proving the point of the issue to begin with.
Yep, that just about covers it.
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a 25th level tracer isn’t going to team wipe people over and over again unless something is up.
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I can’t even imagine how boring it is to lose games on purpose.
They still have their fun, believe me. Especially on KoTH maps. They’ll run past the point and make sure not to capture it and they’ll spawn camp the enemy team and make sure they can’t capture it either. It’s an endless spawn camp because no one gets the point. They’ll do this until they get bored or the enemy team starts leaving the match out of anger, then they’ll start jumping off the map so the enemy will come camp the point and they will still lose the match.
Depending on the patience of the team being demolished, a team of smurfs can hold the other team hostage and potentially keep the same match going for hours. It’s not fun.
Or… you know maybe because it is a serious problem and Blizzard refuses to do anything about it because $$$$$$$$$$
“Jeff Kaplan says smurfing is not that big of a problem. Therefore, it’s not a problem.”
lol such bad logic.
You are quoting the same person who works for a company that makes loads and loads of money off of people who buy smurf accounts.
What do you think Blizzard would rather do?
(a) Declare smurfing to be a little to non-issue which would in turn give them an excuse to not do anything about the smurfing so people can continue to buy multiple accounts.
(b) Declare it an issue and do something about it but lose a large portion of their income from game sales?
There aren’t 5000000 smurfs in bronze. Learn to admit when you’re bad and get better. Even if there’s a reset, you won’t climb to diamond because you think smurfs are holding you back.
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Big exaggeration.
Of course there aren’t that many smurfs in Bronze but coming from someone like me who spent loads of time in that elo when I started out, there are A LOT.
This screams ignorance to the max as if you are blaming the Bronze player who has to sit through a match against a player exploiting the SR-grouping system.
Buddy, I don’t care if someone can “improve” from getting crushed by a GM smurf. That objectively DOES NOT give anyone the right to cloak themselves as a higher level player and straight up body people who just want to play a fair match between them and their Bronze peers.
Stop defending smurfing dude. Everything you say is not only 100% grade A ignorance but also super false.
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A lot of people do that naturally, though?
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Paying peoples for boosting what a stupid thing.
I heard that peoples can pay 200$ for gm. WTF.
For boosting a useless account of a useless player to a useless ranks this is the price of a sandwish. Peoples do not realize it’s so easy to just play the game.
I just wanna say, this post is extremely level-headed for someone called GordonRamsay.
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Low lvl must not mean its a throwing smurf…
Can be a new player placed in silver.
Its not actually hard to reach silver if you’re semi decent at what you are doing.
Still not as good as average. So shouldn’t be that extremely hard.
I started in bronze, and worked easily to gold.
Got placed multiple times back in bronze, went always to gold.
After improvements it goes now till high plat.
Lvl = playtime and endorsement = playtime & hero picks & impressions by theyr teammates.
I don’t think you have any idea what the context of the conversation I was having with kretcher was.
Because I am not saying anything close to what you think I am saying.
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A GM doesn’t smurf in bronze mostly.
But here’s the thing: people who derank intentionally, do so in groups. Blizzard doesn’t do anything about that. Lfg is used for that these days mostly.
Posts like this come up on a bi-daily basis. While it’s not someone’s fault to ask for a real competitive experience or environment? Is it wrong for someone to say just to get better? Because underlying tone of posts like this:
- I’d be higher if not for smurfs.
- I’d be higher if not for teammates.
- I’d be higher if not for trolls/leaver/derankers.
But guess what? At the end of the day, your opponents are also getting same people.
I’m not defending smurfing. I’ve multiple accounts. However, they’re entirely different hero pool and the lowest account I’ve is dps/main healers. Funny because everyone claims dps is the easiest role to climb with?
I wouldn’t say it’s not a problem. Smurfs make any online game really bad experience. However, it’s on Blizzard for not making seperate SR for different roles. If I wanted to play dps at my elo, I would put 5 other people at a disadvantage. That’s not fair either, is it? Because I’d be considered a troll/derankers. And it’s really not fun to play main tanks 24/7. Sometimes you just don’t want to. It’s one of the most stressful role and you can’t deny it.
If there was a separate SR? I’d be happy to play on only one account given I don’t own multiple accounts to get my ego up. It’s because back when open profiles were a thing? God forbid if you picked something you didn’t play? You’d get people instantly tilted.
How can anyone even be Bronze without trying to get there?
People new to the game/fps. Not knowing what counters what. No map awareness whatsoever. Instantly jumping into comp after hitting level 25. That’s how.
I saw my nephew playing fortnight once… He was having fun looting stuff but was actively running away from fights… he’s like 8 y/o.
I imagine there are people legitimately there because they don’t understand how the game works on a fundamental level. You can’t deny these people from getting into a game, the best you can do is group them with the closest in terms of skill so they can still have fun. (with fun being relative).
Pretty sure someone has said this before, but playing well in the game is not a problem. The whole point of the game is to outplay your opponents, whether it’s by better aim, better teamwork, better strategies etc. Therefore, I do not see any problem with a level 25 player who possesses these traits being in your game and playing better. A good player should be able to climb the ranks (which they will by winning)
Now the problem occurs when a group of individuals are Intentionally throwing games to derank. This goes against the spirit of fair play, and I feel that should deserve harsher punishments.
If anything, it feels like a loss prevention mechanism would be the best way to prevent these people from dropping below a certain threshold, hence you won’t be able to drop much further down vs your peak SR (a plat being unable to drop below gold/Silver etc). There would be other considerations to worry about (such as boosted accounts, player populations etc)… I definitely don’t think there’s an easy solution that would be able to take all of these factors into account
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so you can play alone 1v6 … then you’re above Top 500 if you can do that … pls stop.
No it’s not wrong but saying it in this context is 100% irrelevant.
As I explained in my previous analogy, writing smurfs off by just telling the guy who got butchered by one to “get good” is like saying to a group of 10 y/o little league baseball players to “get good” after they just got crushed by a team that had a member of the Yankee’s on their roster.
Yeah cool. They can definitely learn stuff.
Does that make fair or right that they had to be put through that match against someone of superior and uneven skill? No.
That’s literally a factual claim.
If there were no smurfs in my games, I would be higher based on my improvement because the game would consistently match me with other players of equal skill while at the same time, I wouldn’t have an unfair advantage with a smurf on my team and risk having a greater chance of losing SR in a later match that was uneven because I was not prepared for that rank after being carried by a smurf making progress and improvement more consistent and steady.
Teammates is another argument for another time since we are discussing smurfs but I’ll just say that is just as much of a factual claim that can be the case sometimes just as much as “I’d be lower if not for my teammates (ie getting carried).”
Again, we are talking about smurfs so idk how this matters.
That literally does not make any of that okay.
There are some things I have to accept that won’t change like leavers and what not but smurfs on the other hand are a completely sperate issue that Blizzard does have total control over yet they refuse to do anything about it.
“Oh well if both sides have a chance at having smurfs, then it shouldn’t be a problem.”
No no no.
How about Blizzard fixes this issue so games from now on are more consistent in skill gaps between players instead of these dice roll moments where you are guarenteed to win or guarenteed to lose?
That’s sounds more fun to me tbh. Idk about you.
But what does blizzard do? Nothing.
Why?
$$$$$$$$$$
Then you’d agree with me.
Idk what ur getting at here but…
Alt account =/= smurf account
And Blizzard has the power to fix it and there are a ton of ideas brought about that they could implement at least for PC users.