Is 6v6. This is honestly getting absurd at this point. High plat level tanks are having to swap after every single fight.
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So like, were your early march threads just a facade or something?
Also 6v6 doesn’t fix it, it just trades constant swapping for a rigid meta
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This is absolutely the best state OW2 has been in. WE still need 6v6. All I said in March was that these changes were a step in the right direction. What does that have to do with counterwatch? Did that start last patch?
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6v6 would only work with a role limits system replacing RQ along with possibly a hero ban system. Under those conditions the game would be a lot healthier imo but blizzard feels no need to undergo a massive change like that when things are going good for them.
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Literally anything is better than counterwatch.
It feels like Orisa is always the correct pick, out of spawn for the first time.
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I think she got a bunch of unnecessary buffs people forgot about. Like why does she have no dmg fall off?
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We don’t need 6v6, we just can’t have solo tanking. 5v5 open queue, but limited to only 2 of each role max is a perfectly good answer.
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There is rigid meta in 5 v 5.
Unless you’re going to point out that doesn’t matter in metal ranks with 95% of players? Yes that’s true. That was also true for OW1.
I never, not once felt like I had to swap tanks in 6 v 6. There were games I chose to swap because I wanted an advantage or to change it up. But I never had to. I could mainline Rein and have a blast. That was a problem reserved for GM’s.
But now that’s a problem for all ranks. I cannot mainline Rein, and regardless of if I do or not, regardless of if I win or not. I am not, in fact, having a blast. No, I’m having a perpetual feeling like I need to sneeze but cannot sneeze. That is tank in OW Too.
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Whoever is the lone pick is gonna be the prime target of the enemy team, specially if tank or support, 6v6 i waaay more balanced and theres no one who gets soloed into the role
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Solo tanking sucks, at this rate there will be no tank players left.
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Sure, but having an off tank to protect them goes a long way.
I just had a whole team swap to counter me… And my dps just refused to swap to counter their tank (it was already optimal counterplay on my end. Unwinaable
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exactly, this is sadly how it is nowadays, even if you counter their counters, if dps dont want to help you out and switch its GG
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I seem to recall you saying that you were giving up on 6v6 returning, but maybe I’m just crazy. Also we don’t need it, it sucked.
It was better than what we have now. Even if people prefer 5v5, that is fine, but they REMOVED 6v6, which A LOT of people prefer.
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The meta isn’t rigid, many of the tanks are viable and that means you can play them any time as well since you don’t have to worry about what your second tank is choosing.
In 6v6, if you wanted to play a tank but your other tank wasn’t playing one of the cookie cutter duo tanks for the tank you wanted to play, well too bad so sad. You either forgo playing what you want and slot in or you give your team a major disadvantage out the spawn door. And even if you do decide to slot in, if you don’t play what you’re slotting in as then it’s RIP even harder.
In 5v5 all you gotta worry about is if you can play better than their tank. If you can do that, you can play what you want without jumping through hoops.
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Yep. There is no reason 5v5 has to be deleted for 6v6 to make its return.
Let both camps of players have their cake and eat it too. 
Yeah. I absolutely did not say that. You misread. Perhaps I said the devs are crazy, and thus would never return it.
Well, you should say that. It’s a faster way to improving your tank efficacy
Bringing back OW1 is a win/win for everybody. All the tank players abandoning 5v5 will force blizzard to make substantial improvements to try to coax players back over.
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