I like the idea that the armor packs become more of a skill shot as a thrown projectile you actually have to aim. To gain any level of respect in the community her kit is going to have to involve more skill for the value. Same thing was done to Sym, and while it didn’t fix her standing completely, it went a long way.
As BTC pointed out, she has 750 effective health on a relatively small shield area, so that either her shield is regenning when down, or health is regening, or both, a fact people tend to gloss… that’s pretty potent for any character. Compared to say Reins and Orisa and WInstons which are much, much larger. I bet on a rework that shield is dropped to 300.
I’m fully aware. However, she is currently the weakest link of GOATS. If they do ever nerf the composition enough to finally kill it, Brigitte is going to be in a bad spot. She is not currently viable outside of GOATS, and is going to need buffs if she ever wants to compete in a meta that doesn’t run three healers.
Ah well, thanks my heart can stand it, I watched both back to back. Regardless of who said it, the point still stands… her sustain still continues to be her biggest problem.
If Brigitte’s shield is down and the enemy team isn’t shooting her in the head, then they’re making a mistake that deserves to be punished.
If Brigitte is hiding safely behind a Reinhardt shield or out of LOS while her health and/or shield recover, then she is basically out of the fight for a few seconds.
This is still a basic thing that people STILL ignore even months after Brigitte has been around and still blame on the character instead of their own lack of aim, awareness, target prioritization, or all of the above.
Exactly. We’ve got balance teams. Which are totally coincidentally doing the same things I’m suggesting and not randomly choosing heroes to buff for no reason.
I won’t bother arguing with you on these points, not because they are correct, but we can sit and hash back and forth examples all day while not looking at the big picture routine play of the character. If you cannot see or grasp the overall impact of a combined 750 health on a small, regening target I cannot help you.
And trying to say the problems are everyone else’s, that’s just silly tbh. In some cases maybe, but not overall.
Exactly. And this is a large part of what gets Brigitte scapegoated so much. She needs her enemies to make a mistake a lot of the time in order to be effective. Brig is VERY effective at blowing people up for any and every mistake, though, and people do not like that. I don’t think anyone will deny that most Overwatch players love to play the blame game when they lose rather than admit that they made a mistake. It’s never a good feeling to have to realize that you really just aren’t as good as you thought you were. A character who excels at exploiting those mistakes is definitely going to come under fire and is a prime scapegoat for the community.
And if you cannot see how this “health” only applies when facing the character directly from the front, and is mutually exclusive to half her kit, then absolutely no one can help you.
It really isn’t, but whatever makes you feel better.
This mindset you guys have of defending a character as some sort of skill use that’s effective is pretty amazing… the analysis is being done not in cases where some Bronze or Silver tier player is playing, we are talking top pro play questions… these thoughts are coming from pros, coaches, and others who know what they are talking about… stop acting like you guys are the best of the best for analyzing on this, you’re maybe decent players but not qualified otherwise.
It’s telling that this line of reasoning is for some reason the most oft quoted with Brig, but almost no one else… you guys are sitting in your own echo chamber here.
Yes, and I do the same for you as well. you don’t have some intellectual high ground here you imagine you do.
The character was a poor, overtuned design, and is not working overall outside of some very niche cases. But oh, it’s everyone else’s poor play to blame… very, very rationale and logical when even the designers admit mistakes and problems.
She’s going to get reworked. Why? Because she needs to be.
And you know one reason I come on here? Because I actually like the character and want to see her be truly viable and respectable, not a broken joke which she is now.
One thing I have learned on these forums is some people simply refuse to acknowledge the vast realities recognized by the majority of people no matter what the evidence shows. But please, go on blaming everyone else for Brigs poor design, it won’t save her and is in fact, hurting her in the game even more.
Then we are right saying that Tracer has 199 299 effective HP.
Honestly whatever balance affirmation comes from YourOverwatch is most likely biased and false even if in favor of what some1 may think for legitimate reasons.