I think you got mixed up.
That’s more than most ults per round way more and the ability is also much better than many ultimate’s on a 30 second cooldown.
Anyway watch her winrate creep back up to almost the best over the next 3 weeks its already happening.
Fine and if it doesnt can I have your word that youll shut up about her?
If her win rate is bad in 1 months time looking at the PAST MONTH stats on over buff not season 9 stats i will shutup about her.
Stop lying, her winrate continues to decline more every week, she is still one of the worst supports on S9.
It’s strange that AKJ has disappeared and you have appeared, isn’t it? Wow.
Gush I wish I was that young and be worried about such insignificant thing as 10 second in some video game
I will always maintain that a well timed 2-3 man Rez could turn a fight better than 4-5. I was never a “hide behind the wall” Mercy, I took her combat medic lore very seriously lol a couple months before her rework was announced, I was playing comp and the tank on my team when we were in spawn said “make sure you hide when you get ult” so I tried playing that way for half of our attack on Dorado but ended up dropping it when we got between checkpoint A and B because I was dying with ult MORE than I ever had and it just didn’t suit my play style at all. the third time I died I told them I’m gonna play the way I want to. ended that match in a draw if I remember right.
How did you 2 shot the tank tho
I mean, they had a nice play. If you guys all choose to shoot him he dies before he can kill any of you.
Their tank was dead so they couldn’t have shielded him.
??? LifeWeaver and Moira both out heal her.
She’s 5th picked in all ranks.
She meh-like wouldn’t say she’s unplayable but you definitely have better options.
But the “best healer” not by a long shot. She’s hasn’t had the highest heals for the past few seasons.
Okay, no. This does NOT mean that Mercy is back. She is still really bad, and one moment doesn’t change that. Sometimes one big play can be made, no matter how bad an ability is. Fun fact: Resurrect is successfully used maybe 3 times per 10 mins in Masters and above. It’s so situational that regular burst heals (like Ana’s biotic grenade or Moira’s biotic orb) get more value and saves allies more often because they’re just much less situational and risky.
However, yes, resurrect is problematic because low ranks can’t handle it well, and in high ranks, as I just said, it’s just not good enough to equal other abilities, so the solution is literally just replace the entire ability. Not nerf it. Replace it and give her a new utility. Because if you nerf it, low ranks will have an easier time fighting against it, sure, but high ranks will just feel it’s even worse than before, and she’s already incredibly weak.
Yes, you see her in a lot of games, because she’s popular. The pretty doctor lady with the angel aesthetic will always grab players who just like her design or gameplay style. She will always be played, even if she’s the worst hero because of that. But if we look at her actual value and win rate, she’s really bad. She has below average healing, the lowest damage among supports, resurrect is only strong in low ranks and has a 30 sec cooldown (so it’s not like she’s using it for consistent value), so really her value right now comes down to damage boost, which is BARELY keeping her relevant.
Frankly you say “this is what having rez scrapped would mean” but its really not that limited boss. The issue of rezzing a tank having too much value just cant be fixed in 5v5 because Blizzard is dog water and wont admit 5v5 is a mistake.
And if Im being honest, I would still absolutely give Mercy a new ability to replace rez but it doesnt even have to do that far.
How about something omega simple. All rezzed targets come back at (take your pick) somewhere been 40 and 50% of their max HP.
Because the Mercy rez hate stims entirely from the complete removal of your pick. Thats literally always been the issue people have had with rez since the very beginning. That its a “nope, never happened, no consequences” button.
The idea being, if Mercy rezzes someone, they cant just jump right back into the fight at full health no problem. Going for absurdly braindead 50/50 rezzes on a tank in hopes you arent noticed isnt interesting gameplay, its literally just cheese.
A change like that is what will make Rez a much more tolerated ability, discourage the braindead rez strats, and still mean that the enemy team who got the pick still has an advantage from picking off a team member, yet still lets Mercy impact a fight by bringing a fight back to 5v5.
If it was so disgustingly busted when Echo’s ultimate restored her to 200hp, why on earth should a basic ability be allowed to bring back a tank to a full 600-700hp?
You wanna talk compensation buffs, we can talk that game, Im not against it! but stop coddling your sad little crutch button
Almost like with our big meaty mammalian brains we can extract that bad faith, understand what issue these people really have thats causing them to baby rage so bad, and address it.
Its not like Mercy rez hate is new, its been there since day 1 of Overwatch. The issue stems from the fact that Blizzard has never once in all of Mercy’s reworks actually addressed why people hate rez, and have instead just tried to lower the amount of people rezzed over the course of a game.
I feel like everyone is so blind to the idea of making rezzed targets come back at somewhere between 25 to 50% hp. It means an enemy’s pick still has value since the rez target comes back weak, it means the rez target isnt immediately back at full strength, weakens the absurdly over turned power Rez has on tanks, but still lets Mercy even out the numbers again which will always be crazy impactful.
If Echo’s ult isnt allowed to restore her 200hp health pool like it used to, why is a basic ability (no matter how long its cooldown) allowed to bring back 600-700hp tanks at full health?
They used an ultimate to allow her to res man. That’s not op
I mean no.
Because every single Mercy rework that gets proposed by Mercy mains that removes res gets ignored by all the Mercy haters.
But then when someone says “Mercy players are all bad at the game and dumb people also remove rez” they come out of the woodworks to complain about it and offer no real solutions.
So yeah. It’s kinda hard to interact with them when the well is beyond poisoned.
No one said you had to interact with them at all? Like legit at all. You dont have to speak a word to them. Many will be incoherent baby ragers, but its not hard to notice a fricking pattern here people
For the 8 years of Mercy’s existence the most consistently hated thing about rez is getting a pick but having your work immediately removed by a button press. Thats not hard to know. Its blindly obvious. So what do you do?
You decide if its a fair complaint or not (which I think it is) and fix it. How? The half health revive. Mercy gets her very high impact ability, reverting games to 5v5 after a mistake, but the enemy has a longer advantage window where that pick seriously mattered.
Im not even against compensation buffs either to certain areas. As potent as rez is, the rest of Mercy’s kit has been absolutely left in the dust compared to other supports. Mercy is suffering pretty badly from being absurdly one dimensional in 5v5, a mode where flexible generalists are taking over the universe (return to 6v6 thanks)
The most constantly hated thing? Literally every part of her kit is hated equally barring her pistol, which still sometimes gets complained about.
Half health revive changes literally nothing but makes her feel worse to play. She still can bring the person back, she can still “undo” your progress, etc. and due to tbe invincibility time they’d be healed up. In terms of how it feels to play against, it wouldn’t change a thing.
And right now, nerfing her when she’s not even strong would either require compensation or her to be terrible .AND CONSIDERING LITERALLY EVERY ASPECT OF HER KIT GETS COMPLAINED ABOUT(caps and bold for emphasis), that wouldn’t help when it comes to complaints about her.
There’s no nerf in the game that would change how anyone feels about her. The only way for anyone to be happy is for her to be reworked.
Yo problems reading much? Notice how I said most hated thing about Rez? Specifically? The one I pointed out directly?
I told you to take cases one by one and determine which is valid and which isnt, not pretend I told you every last criticism thrown on Mercy is completely correct and remove her from the game.
Half health change 100% changes things, because Rez is telegraphed, and a big golden glowing person is pretty noticeable. When in the immune phase Im pretty sure you cant be healed, so it gives plenty of time to take an advantageous fight, while Mercy still gets to return a fight to a 5v5, which is infinitely better than a 4v5. Both sides get value, and rez would probably still get some hate, but it would be objectively false at this point.
And you people have serious issues with talking about “but x isnt even strong right now!!!” like that has EVER mattered. The point of changes is to increase fun, lower pain points. Is Tracer too strong and needs a nerf? Yes! Does that mean everything else must be dropped? Nope.
And I outright told you Im open to compensation buffs, why are you acting like I didnt say that? Im happy to make lesser characters better over all, but Im not going to sit and pretend that a character deserves her poorly designed ability because its all she has left.
The literal point is to give her something new so Rez isnt all this character has going for it, but for that to happen the power of rez needs to be lowered.
So, if I toss out one immortality field and if I place it right, I can keep a hero in the fight even if they’re receiving ten lives worth of damage. I can use it for my Widow so they can win their Widow duel, I can use it to keep multiple team mates alive during gravs, or other aoe abilities, I can use it as a defense mechanism when being caught out by enemies, I can use it to give me time to reload if my team is being burst, I can use it to brew my coffee in the morning when I’m running late!
And that’s just immortality field, don’t get me started on the other supports, all of which have way more utility than resurrect.
I feel like the frustration most Mercy mains find with such topics is because at some point these threads are born from a maddening delusion. Why? Because even at her very weakest, after all the nerfs and having her counters buffed, it’s absolutely mind boggling that people still want her gutted further. Even when Ana, Kiriko, Bap, etc, have ten times more utility and much stronger abilities.
This made me laugh as well… abusing los – what? get out of here w/that nonsense.
Dude is mad because his team didn’t have a mercy and he wants to play 1 v 5 and not as a team.