Yeah people. Are leaving. Because. It’s miserable too play tank and just. As miserable to play support because you can’t keep anyone alive let alone. The tank. The support ques are just. As instant as the tank. Dps que is. Fine. Though. But. That’s coool because good luck to people. Trying to find games. Now with two of the three roles not playing. Anymore.
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Game is evolving… to remove tanks?
Standing out in the open is never a good idea, but they need to withstand some punishment to take space.
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They didn’t foresee what would happen when they giga buffed Mauga and turned him into Jesus Christ himself either. Why are we still acting surprised when they drop the ball? I’ll be surprised when the opposite happens.
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since the switch from OW1 to OW2 I have HATED the way tanks feel/play. With the new DPS passive, it makes them feel even squishier/not fun…I dread the role queue dailies because I know 3/3 times i’ll be put as tank.
Support and DPS are just much more fun to play imo
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How terrible do you have to be to only be a thread with this kind of changes, where they nerfed support and tank and buffed DPS to a point, where its laughable? Maybe you just suck at the game or should play easier characters?
This kind of DPS mindset “me better now, because I hit thing” is stupid. You dont get rewarded for doing your job. You get rewarded for just existing and hitting sometimes people.
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Supports the same, instant queues, no one playing these two roles, OW Team has achieved it, pampering the DPS completely.
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WHO want to play a game where all the enemy cooldowns are using on the same role? xd
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My support ranked queues went from 20 mins to 4-7 mins during these placements so that’s nice
I thought the ranks within games would be all over the place, but I think I’m playing with/against people around my rank. I assumed with a reset, all sorts of ranks would be in the same matches
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I am taking advantage of it to farm comp point for jade weapons :3
it only takes 30 seconds to find a gold tank game on PS5 right now. it’s usually 3-6 minutes.
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I don’t. Think so support is. Just. As. Trash as. The tank. If you’re not playing as. Zen or kiriko then you’re useless
Dpswatch is what it should be cause. That’s all they want the. Game. To be. Supports. Now. Dps dps is. Dpsing just. Add more tanks. Who dps and they will be. Happy
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That’s true, it was sort of rhetorical…. BUT
What’s crazy with the Mauga thing is they seemed to know. They outright said “yeah our metrics during the open weekend with him indicated he was doing fine, but players thought he felt weak so we buffed him.” So, they knew he was performing okay and still gave him a bunch of buffs anyway, as opposed to coming back and saying “we know he feels a bit weak, but here are some stats that say he’s actually where we want him”
I think a lot of the time they just have so little foresight beyond the immediate here & now of changes, and don’t think two or three steps down the line on how changes will impact the game
Here you are mainly aiming at the Orisa, Mauga and (for some strange reason, but they do it) DVa players. Heroes like Hog and Ball spend most of the game either running for cover or running for health packs. But those tanks (Orisa, etc.) are designed to be bruisers (well, not DVa who should use her mobility for for some reason 90% of DVa players plat and below stand in front of the team holding matrix) and are supposed to be out front of the team bullying their way forward.
The patch has made it so hog, mauga and others without shields are much worse. Duck round a corner and you best stand 1m back from it or their bullets will still be hitting you even if they can’t see you. The new hitboxes are really dumb. I watched Cyx (top Hog main) play last night and he had to give up on hog as every single bullet was hitting him as soon as he broke cover to look for a hook. Poor old Hog is back in F tier.
Even if they “fix” the tanks, the constant damage is just going to wear people down. It’s like playing against Mauga - the noise and just the constantness of the damage makes the game very tiring mentally. Now the whole of OW is like that when you play a non-barrier, non-matrix tank. It is not fun and won’t be fun unless they revert the hitboxes.
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Yes, the players here know the game better than a lot of the people the devs are listening to BECAUSE we understood overwatch 1’s problems and what OW2 was supposed to do to fix those problems. We PREDICTED that offtanks would be dead in 5v5 if not gigabuffed, and we were right.
The redditors seem to lean towards “history started with OW2” and don’t seem to have any understanding that rock paper scissors is new and things were never this bad when you wanted to play your favourite tank. Only now are they finally realizing the forum posters were right and rock paper scissors is skilless and ruining the game, at first they rejected it and said “that’s overwatch, learn to swap”.
They are relearning all the lessons it took us and the previous devs the entire lifetime of OW1 to learn, and repeating all the same mistakes we ALREADY know are gonna be bad.
Like this nonsense about hero bans? That was already determined to be garbage in overwatch1 but the content creators and redditors wanted to try the failed experiment again.
No one on the forums is pushing hero bans because it’s dumb and will mean less balancing.
On every issue, the correct approach was probably ALREADY worked out by trial and error in OW1. The devs are starting from scratch instead of learning from OW1, so are a lot of the content creators who pick and choose what lessons to ignore. The forum has memory though, and we keep repeating the lessons in the hope eventually we’ll get listened to.
Open map + discord = you can’t do a thing
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My question, is what game you’re playing…
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Almost like no one enjoys being the solo tank that gets hyper focused and hard counter picked every game all whilst having to peel and engage for their team aka doing the job of 2 tanks at once…
Who could have seen this coming?!?!?!?! 
But “5v5 solo tanking good” right?
This issue will never be solved as long as solo tanking remains btw, you can’t balance around the aggressive focus/counter picking against 1 solo tank its a format issue for the tank role/game. Either the tank is giga strong aka not balanced to a point where you can’t even counter pick them or its miserable for the tank player and neither are good options.
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Its OW2 S1/S2 in terms of “all roles” queue, meaning that 95% of the time you will get tank.
As long as Mauga is in the game, I don’t mind having that S1/S2 tank roles +95% of the time I pick “ALL roles”, since I like miniguns characters and he has 2.
Don’t get why, Tank is fun to play, the dps passive really doesn’t affect me at all because I never stood out in the open and crutched on the broken state of healing to keep me alive.
Literally only difference I feel is I have to be a little more on point about how I take fights, but that just falls into the “get gud” category so….
Yea, this dps passive was a good thing.
Basically, they always make the right choices at the wrong time. When they were supposed to make these changes, they didn’t do it and just delayed it to a long and undetermined future date and now they decided to do it in the worst way possible in the critical state the game is in. Well… it makes sense that everyone is mad…
If you are going to accelerate a train at maximum speed, do you just wait at the curve to reduce its speed? It can derail before the curve or just during the curve, and you won’t have time to react at either time.
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