If you can easily see a Torb turret, they are throwing.
In what sense? Do you actually think that any part of her kit is ~toxic~ or whatever is the latest buzzword?
If you pull the ''what about the feefees of the heroes she used to counter : (((( ‘’ card I am going to kinda laugh at you.
They really dont exaggerate. You can make her work, yes, but its a gamble and a chore for her team and to Sym herself.
She is a terrible state, lets not pretend otherwise. Its not going to make you look like a worse hero.
There is literally nothing that points lore-wise to Sym being a healer either. People read the gold color in that short story and now every moron thinks it meant or should mean a healbot rework.
Her entire work is an architect, not a medic. She is literally just a Protoss Engineer in an earth setting.
I want major buffs not reworks. Symmetra is on her 3rd edition. The one and only time she was good she was nerfed so hard that she’s still trying to find the bottom of the hole. It’s getting old never having a place. Support Symmetra isn’t the answer. Strong Symmetra is.
Not toxic, just impossible to balance. She will suck most of the time and if she gets extremely overbuffed, she will become an awful hero to play against
She is literally one of the easiest heroes to counter by design. Your fear is so unfounded and so far you have given zero reasons for it.
First, I dont care about the buzzword that is ‘‘play against’’. No hero that is strong is fun to play against. None of them. So why are you subjecting Sym to this inane standard?
Just remember that 2 weeks where she was meta, hell on earth. Nobody is saying that she is strong rn, she is just a bad designed hero
Again, she will suck most of the time and, IF overbuffed, will be awful to deal with
She didnt stop being easy to counter, and it was not ‘‘hell on earth’’. She as was strong as Genji when everyone called him trash tier.
Symmetra doesnt get nerfed because of ladder performance. She gets nerfed because of OWL team TP gimmick paranoia.
Reality shows otherwise.
She was meta, tp was mandatory and her m1 had insane damage.
The problem with sym mains is that they basically just play her, and they are so used to sym being awful that they can’t grasp the idea of how unbearable a strong symmetra would be
She’d be the only support with no healing output?
They already said they aren’t adding shield/armor buffs back into the game. And that’s what she did when she was a support.
Let’s not go back down this road. She’s way more fun as a dps.
It was just normal damage for such an insanely clunky gun, and TP was not mandatory because no one takes TP in ladder.
You are literally saying ‘WE CANT BUFF SYMMETRA BECAUSE HER MAINS ARE TOO GOOD AT HER AND THEY WOULD NOT BE HELD BACK BY MAINING A BAD HERO AND THAS TERRIBLE’’ with an straight face and asking to be taken seriously.
Sym 2.0 was as much of a support as Torbjorn was.
As in she was not. The label was misleading and useless.
Whatever role, strong Symmetra isn’t ever going to happen without another rework. It’s very clear at this point that Blizzard will do whatever it takes to keep her from ever doing well with her current kit, and sadly, most of the community supports them in that goal.
Turrets and team teleporter are going to have to go if she’s ever going to be a widely viable DPS.
How bad do you need to be at reading to understand that from everything i said? We can buff her, but she is gonna suck even after some buffs and the wrong buff is gonna make her awful to deal with
Sym mains have this weird ego where they are so good with her, that is a weak hero,but you guys aren’t that impressive
Yeah deleting tanks left and right and moving entire teams with her tp
Fair. They slapped her in the support role that early on, as there were fewer (everything) then.
She should have never been support. Glad we can agree (:
Sentries have never been an issue, specially in the last 5 years. Even in bronze they are ok, if gimmicky, at best.
Team TP, however, is where you are right.
I believe giving Symmetra an energy guage, similar to Zarya’s, and increasing lvl 1 damage to 80 DPS would help.
It will mean she takes a bit longer than now to ramp up (since energy will accumulate through damage dealt) but there will be more opportunities as Orbs and Turret damage will contribute to ramp up. It will also mean levels are retained for longer if a Symmetra plays semi-aggressively.
Sentries are a really bad skill that will never be strong, they can only be strong if the devs give them insane buffs. Sentries are holding her down
You could literally revert every single nerf to her made in the last 5 years and she still would be easy to abuse with Pharah, Junkrat, Reaper, Mei, Moira, etc.
Most tanks delete her faster she can charge her beam. Just about the only tank she can bully around is Reinhardts who play cowardly.
Sentries were strong and dealt almost double damage for years without anyone but bad players complaining. Carwash kills havent been a thing for years.
To me it seems that instead of thinking and learning the utterly braindead counterplay to sentries, people like you want them removed because apparently killing a stationary target that deals scratch damage is too hard.
Pathetic.
In a game where Chaos Storm exists in all its no aim, massive damage, big AoE, powerful slow version I dont want to hear a single peep about how Sentries are ‘uwu bad for the game’.