I mean, it could be Reinhardt that ends up doing the most damage in a game, but we choose to use Zarya when comparing to Sym in most cases and I’m sure that’s because their primaries are near identical in charge and aim mechanics.
Sym needs help. That’s for sure. I just always find the Zarya comparison to be a little bit of a stretch. Zarya has 400 hp and barriers that Sym can’t even compete with.
I think it just highlights a survivability issue with sym. Because Zarya is getting that extra damage because she is consistent and can survive.
Sym and Zarya have almost identical guns, similar max damage both have mechanics with charge. Both secondary’s are orb explosion damage. That’s why it makes much more sense to compare Zarya with sym. Sym should theoretically have the edge because of her turrets but instead she is still being outclassed by zarya
harder, not better. at least not in every scenario!
and im not sure what the tournament pros are using right now at this secound, they keep changing tactics and inventing new things.
but 99.9% of players aren’t even playing in that lvl. these rules don’t even apply to most of us.
and comp lvl is not exactly a fair judge. most people there are soloq.
She needs more range than Zarya is the big problem. Not more charge or more health or whatever else. Just giving her more range will fix her problem of getting damage in the easiest without causing other issues on other places.
well, Dva can beat Symm for damage, has mobility, can protect teammates, and can wipe the other team with her ult… Probably can be better utilized than Zarya simply for the mobility aspect.
Check out Elsa and BQB… they both played really good Symm play recently on Junkertown and Kings. Granted, she is just now being used in Pro play, but I see it happening now with Orisa, Bap, and Bastion…
harder, not better!
the best choice is always the one that wins.
zerya has basically been the same all through overwatch.
sym is changed every year! most people don’t even know what to do with her.
You need a lot more skills and awaraness using ZARYA than Sym…
With Sym you "CAMP 99% of the time with 3 turrets that slow-down and zerg you faster than zarya at 100% charged beam…
Sym is overtuned atm but the reason for people dont use her is cuz her “PLAY-STYLE” is boring, repetitive, the characters looks ugly compared with Mercy or Dva. So she will never be as popular as the other characters… Unless she become BROKEN like DOOMFISt or WIDOWMAKER…
Still don’t understand why the TANK character does MORE DAMAGE than the DAMAGE character and has a LONGER and HIGHER DPS laser weapon. I just don’t like Zarya in general. She should be focused on her barriers and, you know, tanking for her team. She shouldn’t be just another DPS character with one of the best ults in the game
Because the devs tried making sym into something she wasn’t intended to be. Her kit doesn’t work together at all. And all of her ability is support and tank ability on dps. Compared to Zarya how is just a brawl tank? Why does the support, tank, and dps character into one hero when nothing in kit synergizes.
She is focused on her barriers if that wasn’t. Case she would have no damage and be completely useless. All off tanks have these issues players don’t like dm even though it d via only tanking ability. so players want off tanks to be a tank. But, hate those tanking ability dm and barriers.
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Literally what are you speaking about. Sym and all her skins are gorgeous.
Someone with Script expertise please attempt the following:
Survivability improvement concept
Passive 50-75 hp barrier. Functions like a personal Winston bubble centered on Symmetra and only protects Symmetra.
I know there are limitations but we need a test. If not I’ll wait until console release and post the results.
Well, not exactly.
Symmetra has Teleporter and Photon Barrier and…
Yeah, that’s about it…
Yea but syms role is kinda eh to most people and zarya is just better in most situations especially to do damage
Sym = dps < zarya = tank/dps
Sym isn’t Zarya. Sym is a hybrid between dps and support. Zarya is a hybrid between dps and tank. They both have their own unique strengths and weakness’ and neither of them can replace the other. Stop these threads already.
Well it is obvious you don’t play symm, I guess what you are saying is you never played Mercy either but thought you’d comment anyway?
Ok but… why are we comparing Sym and Zarya? Because they have one similar mechanic? Makes about as much sense as comparing Rein and Brig for having unique melee as their main attack.
Because their ideal range is the same and yet there is little reason to choose Symm over Zarya for DPS?
The issue isn’t Zarya being too strong, it is more on a fundamental level of all characters have an ‘ideal range’ in Overwatch, short, medium or long.
Characters should typically beat other characters who don’t have a similar ideal range to them when they are at the ideal range, eg Mei should reliably beat Widow at close range etc (not accounting for raw talent on the widow’s behalf).
When 2 characters have the same ideal range, it should come down to a simple skill check, not clearly favoring 1 or the other.
Symm just typically gets rekt in this situation.
So the thing is, the other close range DPS: Mei & Reaper both have multiple escape manoeuvres and a larger HP pool so they can last against the close range tanks or escape if need be. Symm doesn’t really have any of that, TP isn’t really a valid argument simply for the fact people argue it will be OP if its deployment time was reduced and activation simpler. (I wouldn’t necessarily disagree with that either)
Symm is similar to Zarya in terms of having a channel damage ability, but the range she just can’t seem to survive long enough when operating at her ideal range using that ability.
Good job being wrong on both!