Sym 3.0 has faults that need addressing

[N7Warrior-1327]

@TLiciousX-11927

good Syms will get better with the skill of tossing turrets in a teamfight. IMO this is a player skill failure and not a failure of the hero design, atm. You HAVE to consider the situation when launching them. It’s not a good idea to fire them directly above the enemy team when heavy fire is incoming

I just think that the streamlined nature of her turrets make you want to deploy them more during but her restrictions of her long cooldowns and the vulnerability they have makes you more inclined to play passively like symm 2.0 anyway. It’s a real issue I have with 3.0 tbh

[N7Warrior-1327]

I think she should have a turret reset and be able to hold four turrets AT LEAST.

Her turrets being more streamlined is fun but while turret bomb is fun, it’s incredibly risky and has a huge cooldown.
The limits they place on sym encourage her to play passively and that continues to today with 3.0
But if you reward her for being aggressive, then she has reason to be aggressive. If she gets just one turret back for a kill, it would make her flow so much better and still based on her own performance. She wouldn’t have to sit around waiting for resources, she could go get the resource on her own terms.

[musa93p-2158]

i always say a compromise is the answer. sym2.0 abilities merged with sym3.0 :

1. primary fire locks-on only for the duration of first lvl beam (1.6 sec) then 3.0 beam

2. orbs pierce but only pierce enemies not barriers

3. teleporter is also a sheild gen , gives 35 shields to allies teleporting

4. infinate teleporter up time would allow players to use it to get allies faster from spawn (like old tp)

5. give her back the projected barrier

if i had these buffs i wouldnt mind nerfing turret damage . i hate it when my turrets get potg not me!

[Arcadium-11882]

did yall really necro this

[Firellius-2695]

@Noobershnoob-1571

not at all; in two seconds a squishy hero would die to the three symm turrets because they would do 50 dps, her secondary fire is too easy to fire and does quite a bit of damage so no it shouldn’t pierce a rein or orisa shield, those mistakes have been made in the past and that was the reason she got nerfed but has now acted like a buff

Why are you in range of all three turrets simultaneously? (Barring Turretporting, which is awful and needs to be removed)

And her M2 is still perfectly dodgeable at mid to long range, it’s still pretty slow.

[Nibelung-1264]

@anon97069328

• Secondary fire goes through shields, but is slower or reduced damage.

I had one idea for that recently that I wish had more traction, so I’ll repeat it every time someone says something about buffing her orb:

@Nibelung-1264

Symmetra piercing orb was one of her signature moves. IMO, they could even keep it in game by simply allowing her to charge one extra second for the piercing effect, while slowing down the orb, and making the uncharged orbs really fast. Like, Mei’s icicle fast. So, you would retain three levels of charging orbs:

• Tap the button, will release a really fast and low damage orb that consumes 1 ammo.
• Hold it for one second, consume 3 to 10 ammo and power the orb according to charge time, up to 120 damage. Orb keeps current speed.
• After getting the full charge, you can keep holding the charge button (make the weapon pincers spin faster, whatever), and after another second, it will jump ammo consumption to 20, and you get the old orb back, full 125 damage, slow as a turtle without any legs strapped to a brick , but with full piercing effects. However, releasing the orb before that extra second pass will just release a 10-ammo 120 damage no-piercing orb.

That would had been perfect.