Kiriko / Lucio is literally the meta lmao and has been since kiriko’s release for months now.
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Lucio helps Brig but it doesn’t help the team that much. When I play Brig along a Lucio, I feel my ult is always very late, usually outhealed.
Imo, if both supports are healing the same hero, its not the best option. In a Lucio+Brig, the only way for Brig to have an impact is to have a long range DPS like Widow or Pharah.
I like Mercy and Zen.
Damage boosting Zen is so much fun.
I also like Mercy with Ana and Mercy with Moira.
And yes, I strictly damage boost them. I mean I heal them when needed but I boost them when I can. It’s so fun to see two supports getting a kill/assist.
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Lucio+Zenyatta, Brigitte+Lucio and Brigitte+Zenyatta are the top contenders for “Do not”
Also Ana+Baptiste makes no sense honestly, just for the fact they virtually do the same, or Baptiste+Lucio either, but they can work.
Ana goes with everyone, same with Kiriko. Moira can also be combined with almost everyone.
I would though more gocus on the tank in that regard. A Rein needs to be enabled by a Lucio, Ramattra also works best with Lucio or a Kiriko. Hog+Kiriko is obviously busted as well.
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We need to duo… a Mercy dmg boosting Zenyatta is amazing.
I like zen lucio, as zen, feeling far less like sitting there waiting for death zen.
there are some combo’s that arnt super good anymore because you are lacking sustain for your tank but the only “bad” combo is lucio+mercy.
kiriko-mercy or kiriko-lucio are the current “meta” picks.
zen-mercy is old school dive 3.0 but this combo only works if the zen is a monster, same for lucio-zen. the benefit of lucio-zen though is you have two defensive ults, but your tank is going to be eaten alive if they have enough dmg so the lucio+zen combo needs to make up for that with dmg. a sort of “kill them before they can kill us”.
in metal ranks these combos will rarely work.
but in any rank lucio+mercy is bad
Anything with brig lol
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Brig and Kiriko or Zen, can’t keep tanks healed
Zen and every other support.
Mercy/Lucio is hot garbage because both healers have to sacrifice their utility to heal and vice verse. My Mercy is damage boosting, guess my Lucio has to stay on heal song the entire game. My Lucio is speed boosting, guess Mercy has to keep the entire team up then even though she’s a single target healer.
I think that, outside of the highest levels of play, you’re almost always better off having your support (or any role) players on the character they feel most comfortable on.
Someone who knows how to play Lucio and uses his cooldown at the right times is going to have a much larger impact than that same person trying to play Ana or Bap and missing all their shots.
As a rule of thumb, at the highest levels, you need supports with utility. Utility is more important than healing output since those players don’t take unnecessary damage. They either stay alive forever or die fast in the middle of the big team fight. In lower ranks, healing output is more important because players can’t take advantage of the utility plus they take a lot of unnecessary damage.
This coming from a masters support player
Mercy lucio is garbage. In ANY siruation.
Zen lucio works well for dive. Dont let people tell you the low healing output is bad. If you discord a target and dive them they can do anything about it. Its all about fast engages and getting picks FIRST
This goes for mercy zen as well
Zen brig doesnt work as well anymore we dont have the second tank for peel anymore
Ana zen is a greedy comp. Your both playing in the backline. Instead of having a main support for the utility and peel. It works dont get me wrong. You just have to be smart about your plays.
Mercy brig doesnt work as well as it did in ow1. That said. It also didnt work well in ow1
If you have 2 flex supports.
Kiriko bap moira ana and zen. It usually slows down the ult charge for both flex supports. Unless that flex support is zen.
Take ana and bap for example. Both heroes excell in healing and both heroes have fight enabling abilities. BUT your both going to get your ult slower than if you had a brig/mercy/lucio as your second support
Can work with a barrier hero or rein
Zen/Kiriko is lowkey a better version of Zen/Brig. Tell your friends.
Kiriko is low key a better version of Zen. Don’t tell anyone.
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Idk i feel like supp duos aren’t as important anymore tbh. The only supp you shouldn’t play with anyone right now is Brig (rip) because she’s a dead weight.
I don’t enjoy seeing any combination of Lucio/Zen/Mercy on my team, especially if I’m on tank.
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Which is funny since for ages that was one of the strongest pairing in the game. It was great in classical dive, as H4WK3 can attest to.
Later people used Zen / Brig for similar comps (this is for eve, I know you know this already H4WK3)
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