Support is full of easy heroes

Won’t argue about that because it’s stupid but just want to know why would you think that’s a bad thing?

I mean are they not too easy?
The easiest dps is like what Symmetra? Tracking and projectile skill required, gamesense with teleporter required.

Whats the easiest support Moira no aim requirement no positioning requirement.


Ok now lets do hardest
Hardest DPS Tracer - Insane gamesense/positioning and mechanics with tracking and the ult is difficult.

Hardest Support Zenyatta imo. Requires very good positoning and decent aim but no where near on the scale of widowmaker.

Its mainly a bad thing because these easy heroes are also the best heroes.

I’d like to see Lucio in the meta with a high pickrate not mercy with a high pickrate I think its ridiculous that there are more GM mercy players than GM lucio players.

Like I said, you’ll just have to suck it up. What you want would effectively kill GM.

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why does it matter if they’re too easy?

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OG dive was the most fun the game ever saw.

I don’t think a forced dive metas would kill GM alot of players would like it and we could switch to brawl every other season by giga buffing brawl.

Because easy and good shouldn’t be in the same sentence.

Hard jobs get payed a lot like Physicist/Chemist because they’re hard and require alot of knowledge.
If delivery driver payed the same what would be the incentive to by a physicist?

Thats the analogy I’d use to describe it.

Why though?

You’re not playing them. To use your analogy, you’re not a physicist, so it doesn’t matter how hard being a physicist is.

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Ana is super broken and low skill.

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People seriously arguing that Grapple (on a 12 second cooldown, no damage resistance, needs aim, a specific spot to grapple on) is some OP repositioning tool that makes Widow easy LUL. She’s way harder than Echo or Tracer.

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Not with only three viable supports.

Not quite accurate. The jobs aren’t hard in the traditional sense of the word. The pay is high because they’re specialty fields that require several years of study just to get a foot in the door. The knowledge required means that not just anyone can become a physicist. That’s why they get paid more than a delivery driver.

The delivery driver isn’t disadvantaged, however, by the existence of the physicist. Their jobs are different, and require different skills. Similarly, just because lesser skilled heroes require less investment to learn, doesn’t mean that they should be disadvantaged by the existence of more skilled heroes.

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Not that there isn’t some truth in your post (hello, Moira), but the over generalization and simplification (no pun intended) ruins it. Because you could write the same thing about many other characters in other roles. I don’t agree with him on everything, but Spilo has an interesting recent video on hero design. I think it’s a more balanced approach to the question than the idea of “easy” or “skillful”.

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literally not a single person has said that.

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You can’t climb on any. One look at your profile tells me everything I need to know. You lost the only two games you played on Moira and Lifeweaver. And you barely play the role at all.

Ana is the most played hero in the game, and is played almost twice as much as Mercy, Bap and Kiriko in gm.
She’s in a very good place, it’s a good season for her and yet you have no interest in playing the role at all.
So I don’t know what you’re trying to do with that topic.

Oh and also, you don’t even know how Kiriko’s kit works.
It’s not a lock-on, it’s hitscan but with some traveling time.

And then it gets destroyed almost immediately. And you have to rely on your stupid beam to keep your team alive.
She’s a throw pick for a reason.

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I was gonna like your post.

Then you called Illari a throw pick :frowning:

After her QoL buff, hardly. She’s fine. Really fun to play imo. Less down time now. She has a rhythm to her primary and secondary fire that I really enjoy.

Otherwise spot on mate :+1:

I know diamonds that are better than GM3 xD

Even top500

Oh wait, those were Plat in OW1 lol

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Not my main account + I troll on moira dps only and both games I had a wrecking ball who throwed if you look through my posts you will even find I reference a wrecking ball player throwing two games I played on moira ages ago.

I got GM1 brig only on a different account I keep deleting accounts because I keep getting suspended and dont want to get perma banned.
Which was probably lucky but I’m atleast GM3 on Ana/Bap/Kiri

Thats true but that only applies to below GM1/Top500 I’ve been Top500 and GM1 top500 players aren’t inflated because there can only be 500 players.

Unless you think all the old players just quit in which case thats valid.

You’re braindead hitscan means it happens instantenously it uses line detection.
Kirikos heal is a projectile that is lock on.

Stop talking about what you don’t know.

Noted.

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I got bored of playing dps and tank because they suck so I just played moira and messed around and lost but had infinetly more fun.

On doomfist I’m perma stunned, antied and slept boring gameplay.

Tank does suck, i agree. However, setting out to annoy your own team by intentionally playing badly isnt great.

Do you do it to try and prove a point to yourself?

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No I just did it for fun both games I was playing against a friend on the enemy team since we’re both high GM I got into his game on opposite teams twice.

And I had a wrecking ball thrower who sat in spawn on my team probably because I was playing moira but still.