It’s an MMR reset because my early matches and placements were nowhere close to my mid/high plat (or arguably low diamond).
It was all over the place, but just within the brackets they said they would implement.
Roughly:
Read my previous quote one more time until you finally manage to understand it.
Do you understand what you wrote?
It’s an MMR reset if I’m getting matched with high silvers/low golds all the way to low diamonds in placements, for the few open profiles in the 10 placements and for the prior seasons. And it wasn’t a progressive match-up but quite random, which is what you’d expect with a reset.
They just chose to do resets into 3 buckets rather than reseting everyone into one giant bucket.
it always was that way… SR is cosmetic and just follows MMR with very small lag … in s9 they changed only UI
More or less, but what happened now was not just SR decay what they have previously done (and i think many thought happened now); now they adjusted MMR.
I think this might be the first time they’ve actually touched the MMR of the playerbase.
Yes, i understand it just fine, but you obviously don’t.
That’s just how placements have worked the entire time.
Again, it’s not an MMR reset. They just lowered our MMR depending on where we left off in season 8.
Again, read my post properly until you actually understand it. It’s really not rocket science.
I am one of those who wish they did an actual MMR reset, because that would’ve been far better than just lowering it, while resetting our cosmetic rank aka SR.
Whoopsie. Now I understand why I landed in Bronze 3 at one of my accounts where I just played a few matches a season. Titled of having something like 3:6 and never finished placements. Now it came back to bite be 
But I am stronger now. My Torb, his turret & his meatballs are ready. OQ Golds, I’m coming for u!
Nope.
When there wasn’t an MMR reset–most of Overwatch 1–the placements were always with players near your rank. The only time players would see a very random experience is with a fresh account. This is what I see today.
For you, “MMR reset” means everyone starts at the same place.
But Blizzard was clear that they wouldn’t do this, but would just do a soft-reset to a lowest of your bracket and wipe away the confidence of your rank. So instead one starting point on a wipe, Blizzard chose 3 starting points.
I’m amazed at people’s lack of reading comprehension here. There’s no other place on the internet where i have to actually quote myself to someone who seemingly can’t read, but here goes…
Again, it’s not an MMR reset. They just lowered our MMR depending on where we left off in season 8.
I am one of those who wish they did an actual MMR reset, because that would’ve been far better than just lowering it, while resetting our cosmetic rank aka SR.
Not here to debate but to add that 2 accounts now having the same rank before the “reset”, minor division drop. (Each account mainly different toon sets too).
And here lies the problem. In one placement game, the algo decided you couldn’t play together. Why? Did you pop off that game? Did she not do well, in particular? Did you both win it? Did you both lose it?
This right here proves that it’s not ‘about wins in losses’ how you can play. If you have a team that wins all 10 placements and then you all get put in different ranks… it was NEVER about wins and losses.
If they only cosmetically changed the rank, then why did I get matched with prior season masters (in my later wins) and silvers (during early losses) during placements?
This wild swing in matching isn’t possible without an MMR reset. It wasn’t possible back in OW1’s SR decay either, because it was only rank that changed and not MMR.
Full disclosure: My rank in this account was P2 on DPS last season. My other account is still at D1/D2 (well, last season).
Or let me ask you this: What do you believe qualifies as an MMR reset? Because it’s clear to me–but apparently not to you–that we have two different beliefs on what an “MMR reset” means.
There is no ‘belief’ on my behalf here.
You’re wrong, and that’s the reality of it.
An MMR reset means it’s reset back to square one, which was not the case. It was never reset back to the state it was when you first played the game. It’s literally in the word ‘reset’.
Because, and i repeat, that’s how placement matches have always worked.
Your MMR doesn’t affect you much in terms of who you get matched with or against during placement matches, which i think is a stupid system by the way.
Who you get matched with and against is only affected to a greater degree post placement due to rank restrictions, albeit, it have been bugged for a long long time anyway.
The cosmetic rank is our SR which decreases or increases depending on too many factors for me to bother with here.
The rank we can see. The MMR values are hidden, but the MMR is our real rank.
Then there are underlying systems for both the SR and MMR in place that Dawson actually slightly tried to explain a bit during his interview with mL7.
Anyway, i tire of this debate. Debating with stubborn people who refuse to accept that they’re wrong is the worst kind of debate one can engage in.
Have you tried reading your own quotes so you don’t contradict yourself?
All you did is confirm what we have been saying all along. MMR was changed. No one said it was completely reset to zero. That is what I wish they would do instead since the whole system needs to be recalibrated. But before that they should fix the issues that made it all out of whack in the first place so that it doesn’t happen again.
the problem is that they didn’t reset the mmr, they just dropped everyone’s rank, making it almost impossible for solo players to get to their season 8 rank
If you’re refering to the lowering of the MMR in general, then yes, i was wrong. When it comes to lowering the ranks at the same rate as MMR, no. SR was completely reset, hence everyone have to do placement matches all over again and start from scratch.
The reason some climb faster is because they were placed higher last season etc.
Not sure what to tell you there…
SR was not reset any more than mmr. SR == MMR nowadays - they go pretty much hand in hand.
I want to you understand why it’s spectacularly funny–at least to me–that you’re accusing someone else of reading comprehension issues.
You (quoting SkullBuzz):
You (quoting me as a retort):
Why do you equate “in brackets” to “zero”? I even gave you a graceful out by suggesting we have different definitions, but you’re digging your own hole.
Wrong lol… Not sure where you managed to pull that claim from…
They said they reset SR, so there’s that.
https://twitter.com/SrslyPaladin/status/1755780371697016938
Ranks are just a view of your MMR.
https://twitter.com/SrslyPaladin/status/1755781749064487312
Ranks are purely a visual representation of MMR at this point.
The SR was “soft reset” same amount as mmr, they’re not deviating like before could happen when they applied pure SR decay.