I think anything below mid diamond is trash and I’m below diamond. If someone in game tries to blame me for crap that’s not really my fault I’ll happily point out that we’re all garbage at the game and that they probably can’t even accurately assess why they won or lost most of their games and certainly aren’t doing so in this case.
And yeah when people in bronze-plat happily tell gm and owl how they should be playing/how to counter the dominant meta with some strategy that’s never been successful before (and they test pretty much everything) or how to make bastion weaker or that Tracer is op in their tier I do kind of laugh. There’s a reason the term “plat chat” exists. Anything there and below people are still missing core fundamentals of the game. Not always but often their balance suggestions (particularly when they don’t factor in high tier pick/win rates or OWL use) are kinda atrocious.
My friend used to have this view. He said anything below Diamond was trash, but if you were barely Diamond (3.1K ish) you were basically still plat and still trash. Then we finally climbed to Master and his opinion changed. Now, Masters are just boosted Diamonds and Diamonds are basically trash.
Conclusion: Everyone below GM is trash.
I have not proved your point whatsoever. Again, there is a difference between bringing up rank to insult someone, and bringing up rank as a justification for opinions or why an opinion may be invalid.
Bringing up the subject of rank for the latter is NOT rank shaming. If you think it is and can’t tell the difference between the to, you should’ be on these forums.
There is also no arguing with the notion that the opinions of a Grandmaster player are more valid than those of someone in Gold, per se. They are objectivley better at the game, and have a better sense of how changes will change the meta.
And just for the record, I didn’t know you were silver. What I said was a blanket statement that applies to all ranks.
I think as you rank up you will always see people at your tier and below as trash if you are self-aware because you will see how badly the game is played compared to professional level.
But I think if I do get there I’ll probably believe there’s still some understanding of the game that’s there that we don’t see in plat. I’ve heard the Bronze=Gold argument but as someone who was as low as 1900 once I think the games play out a little different constantly as you go up in SR. And from what I’ve seen on streams it’s around mid diamond that the game isn’t entirely filled with wtf moments and decisions thought they’re still there.
It’s an ez way to get people tilted. So basically people who rank shame are no different than people who make fun of you for your hair color or choice in style.
Yeah sure you can change your rank or whatever, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter. So they use it against you to get into your head.
My advice is to simply ignore or don’t be ashamed of it. Take the insult out of the statement because it’s not really insulting to be in a lower rank.
I’m sorry, but reaction time is of very little consequence in comparison to game-sense in Overwatch. If your game sense were on point, you WOULD be higher rank.
Just to clarify, I am not being MEAN or TOXIC. I am being brutally honest, this is constructive criticism. There is a difference.
I find it hard not to rank shame when gold/plat players comment or create threads making stupid suggestions like the game is balanced around them low tiers.
At lower rank, game sense only applies when you have a team of people around you, who communication and coordinate together to achieve the win. We all know that is virtually impossible at low rank. If you can’t coordinate ults, or even a simple plan of attack, you are going to have a tough time moving up the ladder.
What good is all this knowledge if only I alone can apply it? My original reply stands as far as Im concerned, and I don’t believe for a second that you didn’t look at my profile before commenting.
You can cling to your skepticisim, but I did not look at your career profile. As I said before, my reply was a blanket statement aimed at all ranks.
everyone shaming on everything
welcome to the internet
i’m reminded of a 2008 wow launch
oh man did the basement dwellers leave that night
soo much so in fact, after driving a friend to gamestop that night at midnight
I went into the store looked around for a second
and yelled
“OH MY GOD!! Who’s Manning The Internet ?”
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Oh yeah!!! I can only play Widow at a Mid-Gold level, beat that! (I’m really bad at widow)
Nope i was just taught that if you ate last place in anything it is because you didnt work hard enough or not paying attention, this whole excuse of “oh they are just better then us” is a defeatist attitued, just making excuses for you mistakes or not trying hard enough
That’s why I only do placements, and teeter between diamond and plat. I don’t think I’ve played comp more than 20 games since season 6.
Everytime I get called out for being plat, I just say I only do placements, check my win count, it’s only 6. If I wanted to I could grind higher (probably not masters, but probably mid diamond) , I just don’t care. I prefer arcade, but want gold guns.
Except that higher ranks don’t necessarily mean you know more. More of a factor of motivation than anything else. You think I have any desire to be GM? Nah. What will that do for me? Will it make the game more fun? Probably not. Treating the game like a job sounds lame anyway.
Just my opinion, not facts. Personal preferences and stuff.
I think you’re jumping to false conclusions, ThanosRising.
See, I have hundreds of hours in the game and I’m a low rank (silver). So when I high rank player gives me advice on technique, etc. I listen. I treat the situation as the high ranked player being an instructor and me being a student. So I would hesitate to advise that high ranked player how to play.
Here’s the important thing to remember… That high ranked player is NOT a better person than me just because of that rank. I am not less than them. There are things outside of this game, that would place me in the ‘instructor’ role and that high ranked player in the ‘student’ role.
You seem to be equating ‘advice from a better player’ with “I’m a better person than you”. They’re two very different things.
All my friends are plat and gold and silver but I enjoy them and would never shame them for their placement. We do skirmishes in 6v6 custom games and those same gold/silvers can beat me down
What advice? There’s no “friendly” advice being offered in bronze. Friendly is not thousands of higher ranked players deranking on purpose just to stomp lower rank players. You call that friendly? Come on.
I’ve been stomped by smurfs in low rank for many seasons now. Would you take advice from a bully? I think not. Im 40 years old, and don’t need some sort of fake gratification from a 15 yr old kid hiding behind a platinum rank.
A lot of people out there DO act superior just because they have a higher rank. They get a “high” off of crushing lesser skilled players, and than enjoy rubbing it in their faces. I don’t call that friendly. Its abusive.
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised if people bought others’ time throwing games for them so they could go on their account later and have “more fun” lol.