Stop pretending like Brig is so op you can get to grandmaster with her

Jokes on you! My cousin’s sister’s Aunt’s mailman’s brother’s sister’s daughter-in-law’s best friend’s uncle was bronze with 0 SR and he got to top 500 on the pc since the season has started.

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Aah yes, overbuff…
The site that still has Symmetra in the support category.
Must be a reliable source these days with only a small portion of the data available.

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just… watch both of those videos, and try to say that again

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Stop making things up with zero evidence to back them up please. Its sad.

We live in a time where fake news is facts to people, goes to show how desperate people want to make their narrative sound legit when it isnt.

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Gold brigittes climbing to GM is like Mass ress not having any counters and Mercy players spamming 5man resurrections in the olden days like candy every 30 seconds.

Aka, myths. Gold brigitte climbing to GM might’ve happened to one person who happened to derank and 5man resurrections were 1 in 750 of all resurrections that happened. And brigitte has since been nerfed a lot, so what if someone used unnerfed Brigitte to climb in some season if she’s since been fixed? Said person will drop hard if they can’t actually hold their rank.

Counter ultimate with another ultimate, yes. That’s fair. Or you could just kill the mercy before she gets to resurrect anyone if she has to come back from spawn, she moves in a straight path and has to get in range of ressing. They could have ofc tweaked the range and otherwise but apparently not.

Mccree’s high noon locks onto targets being ressed, shatter is excellent in dealing with clumped up enemies, graviton surge will suck em all up nicely, barrage jack dab in the middle should get them all swept up with the massive damage, selfdestruct in the middle will get them all destroyed nice and simple, reaper dancing in the middle is easy 6k again, riptire is easy to have rolling in the middle for team wipe, hammond can spread his mines as soon as he sees ress go off, hanzo and mei have aoe ultimates that cover the whole point…

There’s actually only very few characters that don’t guarantee a teamwipe or majority of enemy team kills on clumped up enemies after resurrection with just one counterultimate alone. Characters like Orisa and Winston and Sombra. They were simple to kill anyway without their main source of healing if mercy either died first or hid and the smart thing to do would be to save one counter to mercy’s ultimate. Kinda like zen has to save trans for the genji ultimate, lest it’s a lost fight.

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Kill the healer first.

At this point it’s such a basic law of gaming it should be on a stone tablet.

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Watch a pro player’s stream.
high ranks are jam packed with brigs that were gold/plat a season ago
This guy also has a top500 icon and that means he should know.

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Mercy was even worse, you had people who were Silver - > low Plat - > High GM.

The problem with mercy mass res was that she was invulnerable casting it. The only way to counter it is to have diamond level mechanical aim to shoot down a mercy guardian angeling in to res. The problem with that was that it was only possible for the top 5% of players, and that that if they can pull it off either. Below that rank, it will almost always succeed, especially in QP, making it extremely frustrating to play against. They can’t handle killing pharah, what makes you think they can kill mercy moving with guardian angel speed.

If she didn’t have that invulnerability, her mass res would have been just fine. You can blame it all on the mercy who cry to make mercy invunerable during mass res, causing the chain reaction of nerfs and reworks.

Personally playing Brigitte i wouldn’t say she’s OP, she’s quite annoying (way less than Doomfist or Junkrat) but her skill lies more on gamesense. I don’t understand the hate against her

Does it feel good to close your eyes and ears and just pretend you’re right even with heavy proof to oppose you? Before you counter with “W-what proof, liar!?” There’s a ton in this very thread. I’m sure your response will be that this literal video proof and testimony from top 500 players is somehow incorrect because of…some fact you know that nobody else does.

Brig is broken, her win-rate is still the highest in the game.

Wait, are you implying that pro streamers would stoop to such a clearly licentious practice as using Brig’s reputation as OP to gasp generate drama and get viewership… I am shocked

That all being said, she needs tuning, but she’s not nearly as bad as some make her out to be… it’s just fun for some to hate, especially if their main is a dive character…

Did you know that 90% of statistics are completely made up?

I doubt you actually know any of that for a fact. You’re literally making things up to fit a narrative. Many of them in fact are PROVEN to have been lower rank players who picked up Brigg and climbed hard. It’s the point of their video.

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There is more than one way to counter mass rez than just killing the Mercy before she can use it…

Hmm, I must have missed all these Brig one tricks as they steam roll through diamond granted that I haven’t seen one yet.

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I watch Seagull, IDDQD, Emongg, Fran, Aspen, Calvin and many others pal, and yeah, no. Its an urban legend with 0 proof. The amount of people that is LEGIT silver (not a master or a GM with an alt) levelling from there to GM doing OTP Brig is non existant or close to zero.

Btw the Top500 icon doesnt matter here, please dont go with the ad verecundiam fallacy.

I was mainly talking about XQC.
Somone who actually checks profiles.
Dozens of times he has seen them.
Also so many have Private profiles.

“Your average gold player isn’t going to magically get to grandmaster just because they one trick brig”

You’re right, not grandmaster, but diamond, or master, or even plat he wouldn’t reach with any other hero, like many before did and do. Some hardstuck platinum players are now in grandmaster, how is this fair? It’s the same as it was with mercy from Season 5 to Season 9. All those silver, gold, plat, diamond Mercys SUDDENLY and MAGICALLY being gm and top500. And only because not EVERYONE could do it, it’s ok?

At this point I even stopped caring about your low average rank player reaching a rank they don’t belong to with the other 27 heroes. At this point I’m more annoyed by the fact that Brigitte is so easy and so rewarding that people in gm who, most of the time know how to play this game, have it easy to crap on others with her.

Not everyone will be able to bungee jump even if it is 100% guaranteed that he’ll survive and won’t hurt himself. Not everyone will fly on a airplain because they’re too scared to die in a airplane crash. Not everyone has a driver license and drives are car. But you know? The majority does, a lot of people do. While those things aren’t an issue here, a hero that takes a crap on the aspect of “competitive” is an issue.

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Except the issue was that all those ults you just named were usually just used in order to get the 5 man kill the mercy was rezzing… I do understand that tempo rezzes were much more common and on average more useful but when you try and make an argument by ignoring the entire problem you’re not helping your case… I too miss old mercy…

I also believe armor pack is far more oppressive then rez ever was… its pretty much an instant preemptive rez capable of saving someone from 1 health. People constantly complained about the mercy meta for good reason, instant rezzes on a 30 second CD allowed for bad plays to go unpunished, Armor pack does the same thing, is on a lower CD, has less risk, and the hero as a whole needs to have its skill cap raised. The top brig players aren’t really that different from the plat brig players… the hero as a whole has far too high a margin of error and is very difficult to punish without playing around her.

Then there is the issue of moira and brig both being anti flanker, Im aware both genji and tracer win a 1v1 against moira but my point still stands. There is no excuse to make the support role be able to hard counter its counter… Brig as a hero is flawed from her most basic concept. The main point of flankers is that they are made to give the support role hell, they are anti back line heros that are made to force your team to peel for you, healers are supposed to be vulnerable…

Zenyatta is an example of a support done right, high skill requirement, while capable of doing high damage, has one of the best support ults in the game, and has great utility he is full of punishable flaws including having one of the easiest models in the entire game to 1 clip as tracer, zero mobility, more or less requires the team to protect them.
Then there is armor… Armor in general is bad for the game, having a hero that has armor naturally is fine, but when every hero has 100-200 extra health with damage reduction, and the hero that gives it to them is un-melee-able there is a huge huge issue once again at the basic design level.

And all the comments about CC are ignoring the context, Doom fist is super vulnerable when CCing due to charge ups, floating, and other wide super obvious animations, good positioning, great awareness, a great reflexes needed to operate the hero as a whole as well as land his CC,

Mei has no mobility,
implodes to focus fire, requires a team to follow up and be effective if you have any sort of coordination or awareness.

Mcree is a mid range hero with pointblank CC and what might be the worst mobility in the game. his CC can be turned against him, requires him to predict a flankers movement, is highly punishable if it fails, and requires him to already be in a range he is uncomfortable fighting, His weapon is also a high precision hit scan.

Ana, low mobility, projectile CC skill shot will nearly no margin for error, easy to kill when caught out of position, only self heal is on a CD and is a very important to both ward off flankers, save tanks and in general do her job.

Roadhog is an ult battery if you are ever out of position, can fail to kill most targets if there is no follow up on CC, easy to read sound effect and animation for hook making it super easy to predict and dodge, creates space via fear of hook.

Then there is brigg, requires zero aim, can cleave out an entire area, while healing them-self, has base line armor, has a shield that not only protects them but covers their CC also has one if not the most forgiving hitbox for any CC in the game, very difficult to punish even if its juked, has better sustain then some tank heros and can shield bash kite and flail bash to keep range when being trained… HIGH BURST COMBO THAT REQUIRES NO AIM AND LESS THEN 5 MINUTES OF PRACTICE TO MASTER… very low skill cap hero…

THE ISSUE ISNT THAT YOU CANT COUNTER BRIG its that she does so much and playing her badly isn’t punished. She is an incredibly high reward hero with close to risk. Yeah I can play Phara and junk and hanzo and farm her from off angles and out of her reach… but the issue IS NOT that she can’t be countered… It never has been. its the lack of any risk while playing a hero that is made to deal with all the highest risk heroes in the game. No matter how much you argue she isn’t busted your bias so difficult to miss that it’s almost nauseating.