Sticky grenade needs to go

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then remove his primary fire otherwise, no he’s not, he can do massive damage at range with the truck tyre size shurikens he throws

Get in, demolish a squishy and get out scot free in 0.02seconds <— fixed it fore you

yeah so she heals while doing damage, so does brig, and lucio can do it with an ability as well… ohh also baptise… and now also mercy… whats your point?

no she doesn’t she is projectile, the “freeze” beam she has is the same range it has always been, and genji can easily stay outside of it

50hp is nothing in this game, litterally nothing

also… yeah no, teleport takes way too long to set up, by the time you set it up to chase the genji, he’s long gone, and the other 4 members of his team will be waiting there for you on the other side…

HAHAHAHAHAH no you wouldn’t x-D

ok then, how about moira getting a fade reset for getting a kill? bet you wouldn’t be ok with that

maybe it should, would certainly rein in all the irritating reddit lucios

no they are not

set 1 are abilities, set 2 are features of abilities, not the same at all

nope, he is busted all the way to mid diamond, always has been, which is why he is so popular in all those ranks

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From my biased point of view I’m just annoyed that Doomfist can’t do anything about sticky nades other than “just don’t get hit by it”

All the other tanks have armor, shields, over health on demand, ways to eat it entirely, reactive protection, damage mitigation.

Doomfist? Nothing.

It can hit you while you’re actively blocking- and it still does full damage.

I think that’s pretty lame. It’s the one thing I feel they should buff about doom, if a sticky nade is stuck to his front while he’s blocking, let him block it.

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that would be because he isn’t a tank, and was never meant to be…

he was shoehorned into that role because the devs prefer rubbing their backsides on keyboards to develop things rather than actually working

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I don’t mind the sticky grenade. But holy crap I’ve been so unlucky with it tonight. It’s like I’m the one person in all my teams with a homing beacon on my back for it tonight good god lol

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he has the smallest of the projectiles mei and sym have way larger projectiles so i guess the yare long range as well.

lol i see your just lying deflect gets worse as you go up in ranks and this is why i think your bronze because low ranks have no trigger discipline.

exactly why bot hare good at dealing with genji they have ways so sutain them selfs why doing damage along with.

aww yes 16hps a second in a small area its okay but you don’t get ti from doing damage.

lamp is a better argument then heal burst.

no she don’t not while doing damage.

so is genji and his is slower so is ever harder the farther you are.

and she can heal so he needs to do 450 damage while she can bloc khim in and catch him with her beam.

lol no he shouldn’t

okay then queen shouldn’t have time reduction appon hitting a target with axe. is that better or sigma shouldn’t get green hp from sucking attacks because dva and orisa dont get that.

lol he’s just not and anyone in those ranks that dont hate him with a passion will agree he’s the second weakest flanker.

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yes he was her was at first a tank then changed before releases just like echo was a support

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netcode, hitboxes… DO YOU READ!?..

is that genji main cope i smell? sniff sniff yeah its genji main cope…

no he is broken up to mid diamond, go ahead go play a game anywhere from bronze to diamond, at least 1 team will have a genji, if not both of them

netcode and hitboxes yawns

so… he can’t just run away when he so much as takes 1hp worth of damage, and she can’t chase him then?.. right… yeah…

then don’t bring it up

sniff sniff hmm genji main cope… so easy to smell it from 500 miles away

look you’re a genji main, i get it, you love having your favorite weeb bait being broken so you can just demolish anything in your path and get that sweet sweet dopamine like the drug addict you are… but your arguments are exactly the same as every single other genji main out there… and they are all wrong…

so you don’t need to reply anymore, but i know you’re going too, so if your precious little ego requires the last word so very badly, then please go ahead, you’re welcome to it… we all know that genji is broken, and only genji mains think he isn’t

night night

Edit - (told you you would reply, genji mains can’t resist it) x-D

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I see oyur a troll so im blocking you hope you have a good life in bronze

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And for your info im a support main and lucio main more then genji main i just dont have lucios gold icon so i went iwth my 3rd main also font have reins gold icon

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And this is your response that basically loses you any credibility. You could have left it as it was (better worded admittedly), but you just HAD to sneak in that “weeb” insult, and saying that everyone else’s arguments are wrong because they play Genji. Dude/sis, you just made yourself out to be a fool lol.

so you don’t need to reply anymore, but i know you’re going too, so if your precious little ego requires the last word so very badly, then please go ahead, you’re welcome to it…

Night night

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not an insult, he is weeb bait, he is a hero designed to tug the interest of people who like cyborg ninja’s and anime, if people take it as an insult, its on them (fyi, i like anime and have been called a weeb, i don’t give a s*it)

i was saying that genji mains all make the same argument, and that THAT! argument is wrong… not that any and all arguments that they could/would make would be wrong, only that they don’t do that

so… yeah no, you’re wrong on both counts x-D

also… this is the first reply to you, not a continuation for the sake of continuing and getting the last word… so that doesn’t work… but nice try

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They are a bronze troll dont even try just mute

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was diamond, don’t play anymore tho… shrugs

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Its not effective against Tracer and flankers while being oppressive against Symmetra and other immobile heroes.

The reason why it has the magnetic/sticky thing is because it was supposed to be a flanker counter ability. It isnt.

Its a complete failure of an ability and it should be reworked or replaced to something that actually threatens specifically mobility. All its useful right now is punch down weaker heroes.

Cowboy went from a strong duelist and anti-flanker to a meme weak hero bully that needs to be overbuffed to not be generic and weak.

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Ya anything thats a flanker counter ability is always way harder for non flankers to deal with

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Kinda

Some clarification here for echo off the bat: She wasnt really “anything” first. They tried her as a support- but they tried her as a lot of things.

The creation of echo literally came from a piece of concept art back from the scrapped Titan MMO when they were fleshing out the concept for the game. She wasnt really designed to be anything other than a piece of art amongst a LOT of others while they were working on the esthetic of titan. She wasnt “Designed” to be a support, let alone a support within the context of overwatch seeing that she was drawn for another game entirely.

Early during the creative phase for her while figuring out what she would do- They found they really liked duplicate as her ultimate, and cemented that as core to her “identity”. “Ya we want a hero that can turn into another hero!”. From here as they continued to flesh out what else her kit would do- they tried a lot of things, including trying her as a support- but ultimately the direction of her ult made them feel she was better suited for a dps.

So ya, she was “tried” as a support, but wasnt really “meant” to be a support.

Doomfist is a similar situation- They didnt really have doomfist nailed down before his development. The devs have said he was more or less back ground throw away lore- but the popularity of the concept, both amongst the players/fans and the development staff themselves- got them to go “man, we really should make this character!”.

Initially they tried him as a tank- And famously had some other abilities they played with during development. Most well known was his ability to grab and yeet people.

But they ultimately went with making him a DPS due to the destructive fantasy of his kit they wanted to work with.

Having said all this:

I do feel doomfist overall works “fine” as a tank. He wasnt “meant” to be a DPS either- and like we talked about right there: a lot of his development actually had him being experimented on as a tank.

The idea of a mobile brawler tank is, to me, a good one- and works well. Its true theyre taking what ultimately got shifted into a DPS kit and are re-working it to “fit” the tank role.

But i do feel it could still use some little tweaks to “fit better”, like being able to block or deal with sticky mines.

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I didnt mind it in OW1 when it was just a flashbang for everyone. At least as much. A necessary evil.

And the thing is… we already have a debuff that basically does not affect immobile heroes. The grounded/cripple effect on Zarya’s grav that disables specifically only mobility abilities.

Reduce sticky grenade’s damage and make it over time, extend its duration and let it disable mobility while its stickied. Oh and let it interrupt on sticking.

Ta-da, ability fixed without it being a free kill against immobile heroes without a self cleanse.

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But i will ask whats a mobility ability or do you just mean slow because alot of hero will just cleanse it like tracer reaper and moira.

And to fix it drop the damahe to 80 and doom needs to be a head shot to get a combo like it should be

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Fun fact!

Zarya’s grav does not root, slow nor it has any sort of hard CC beyond a drag and lift. To avoid letting heroes like Tracer or Genji trivialize it with their movement, they added the follow thing to it:

Movement abilities are disabled within the effect of Graviton Surge, with the exception of Reaper’s Wraith Form and Moira’s Fade. Regardless, these abilities cannot be used to escape Graviton Surge.

This little debuff here is Blizzard’s best kept secret. Anything that Grav disables, Sticky Grenade could.

I think that making it a ‘‘static’’ sticky that deals damage over time (30 per second, over 3 seconds) instead of explosive is the way to go.

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That could work as well