⭐ 11 Changes that Will Make Symmetra a Beauty and a Beast

[JangBahadur-1968]

@Kyarameru-11252

I apologies for false number, im bad at math, my bad, now its fixed

with the gun now, after charging for 2s you deal 90 damage in 2s, then jump straight to 120 per sec. Total in 2s beaming from lv1: 90 damage

with my idea, it deal with 6 damage first hit, extra 3 damage after each hit and increase until 30 damage / 4 hits every sec. Total in 2s: 132 damage

Its just 42 damage increase before you reach 120dps

That’s still broken though. 30 > 60 > 120 is quite good and balanced IMO. See my previous comment.

As for Turrets being easily destructible -

Turrets can add a ton more DPS, so the downside being 1HP in a necessary downside.

They have 1hp because you can deal upto 180dps + your Primary fire dealing 30/60/120.

So Turrets are a powerful DPS source, they are balanced by being paper thin.

In order to make Symmetra more powerful, all you need to do is make her Turrets faster Cast and low cooldown.

That way her Turrets don’t become OP, while still being powerful and counterable.

As for your suggestions as a Whole -
I think you are taking Symmetra to be a severely imbalanced hero and thus your suggestions go in the complete opposite direction of being completely broken AF.

That’s not the case though, Symmetra is very balanced hero and all of her kit has been designed that way for a reason.

Her Secondary Orb is balanced around being Dodged in mind, her Turrets are designed around being destroyed in mind, her Teleporter makes for a good Ultimate, etc etc

So you have to buff her according to that delicate balance.

@Kyarameru-11252

but the good thing is you wont get the risk of resetting the level if you accidentally switch target before level up

I have never noticed that but they should fix that.

@Morbo-11711

These would just make her op on defense and still useless on offense.

Well she is already viable on Offense so I don’t know how my suggestions will take her backwards.

If anything they’ll buff her on Offense, since faster Turret cast time and lower cooldown means she will be able to move her Turret Webs more often, e.g. on Payload maps, she can easily place a Web, then as the Payload moves, place another one quickly.

Out of all of Symmetra’s kit her Turrets are the only Defensive Tool, and by improving them, in the manner I listed, alone she will become better on Offense.

In addition, improved Shape of Barrier, Lower cooldown and more control over the Barrier means that she can be more aggressive with it on Offense, and use it better for pushes.

So these suggestions actually make her awesome on Offense.

@EmoBrownie-21533

No I said that mobility WONT allow them to escape the slow or the damage, I used to be a Sym main.

Are you saying that mobility should not allow people to escape Turret range?

Should Turrets Cripple heroes and disable mobility?

@Star99er-1436

For Photon Barrier, the only change it needs to be good is to let Symmetra control its movement. When she uses it she can press the same button again to have it stay still, and if she wants it to move again she can just press the same button.

This would make her choke hold very strong.

I think you will love the following idea-

@JangBahadur-1968

4. Allow Symmetra to manipulate the Barrier with Her Gun

Personal Shield

Holding E delays the movement on the Barrier by 2s.

This is like a 2s personal shield, like a pseuo-Reinshield. You hold E, the barrier stays in position in front of you for 2s, after which you can no longer hold it and it is automatically released, travelling forward in the direction you are facing at the time of release. So Press E to send out Barrier as normal, Hold E to keep it in front of you for 2s.

Allowing Symmetra to hold the Barrier with her gun, only for a bit and change the direction of it, at the cost of fire power, will help alleviate the weaknesses of the Photon Barrier.

She can’t do it indefinitely just for a second or two and gain the advantage of protection from off-angles and gain a larger window of protection.

So a high level Sym could throw out a barrier, fry the person behind it then turn the Barrier and go for someone else.

This increases the Skill Ceiling of the Photon Barrier and Symmetra overall.

As long as the Barrier is within 7m range, she’d be able to manipulate it with her weapon using the E button.

This maintains the current functions, the current Strengths of the Barrier, while making the Barrier more versatile of an ability and allows high level Syms to get more use out of the it.

This maintains the identity of the Barrier as a Moving Barrier.

-I think it is important that the Barrier is not made to be a stationary Barrier like Orisa, as many people suggest. I don’t think that is the right way to do change it.

In addition it brings in the telekinetic properties of her gun into her kit and allows her to manipulate the Barrier after casting it.

I thought of this idea months ago but shrugged it off, but the more I think about this idea, the more it grows on me.

With this type of Personal barrier, I don’t think the cooldown needs to be reduced all that much, if at all.

This type of Barrier with an 8s, or even the current 10s cooldown, will be fine.

@idSurge-1468

You asked for a useless data point

I actually asked for meaningful data points.

I am still waiting.

And while we are at it, I am also waiting for good arguments.

@Absolution-11788

You “insulted” first

Please show me where I insulted you first.

“git gud kid.” and “nothing personnel” are memes and were intended to poke fun at you. They were not meant to be insults.