Sombra should only have hack OR invisibility

Personally I would remove invis. Her main identity is hack anyway.

Invisibility just enables the Sombra player to engage at optimal timing and position with minimal understanding of both concepts.

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She would be unplayable without stealth.

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Naturally the rest of her kit would need some update/rework. e.g. uninterruptable hack or low/no cd when interrupted

Hack is a husk of what it once was and its a glorified damage gating now and y’all still whine?

Pathetic.

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I like how MCAss has a better Hack than Sombra, but people still complain more about Sombra.

I don’t think they’ll ever stop complaining about Sombra.

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It always bothered me that hack has literally no counterplay if ppl can’t even see the sombra. Idk why it was changed even back in the day.

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I wasn’t complaining about hack. That’s why I chose to keep it.

Not as long as she has stealth.

They both have pros and cons. But also hack interrupts and locks out many more abilities than cree. Since his is movement only. Not saying that hack is op or anything, but it’s different.

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It does have counterplay, shooting her with any amount of dmg. She is visible while using hack and it can be cleansed. At least the wall hacks part, not sure about the 1.5s lockout.

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Using hack reveals her, she cannot hack while invis anymore and damaging her forces it onto a cooldown

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The lockout gets cleansed as well, but I don’t think hack is worth blowing suzu

Nor do I, unless they are in trouble for other reasons.

Her hack would need more range, shorter cooldown and faster hacking time for her to be viable. Virus would need to be overhauled so she only gets the extra damage from her smg by hitting targets with virus. The smg itself would need a range buff and shorter spread. She would need a new passive over invisibility, you guys can figure something out. Im not a sombra fan after her rework even though shes my 3rd most played hero in this game. I just want her to be balanced and fair across the board. It’s no fun facing sombra, let’s all establish that. Wanting her neutered though is also not ideal.

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Hack revealing her is not a counterplay. That’s her own doing.

I’ve played Sombra myself. If you hack from flank instead of frontline hack, 95% the hack is successful. And that’s against a target with weapon that has spread. With no spread, most people will not be able to land a flick shot 90~180 degree before they get hacked.

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for the time she is revealed, you have already hacked the guy.

I don’t know if it is even possible to fail a hack as long as you are facing the other person.

She is rhythm hero – hack, virus, shoot, jump. Repeat

I wish that was true, but hack does take 0.6 seconds to cast, it’s very quick but it’s not impossible to react to.

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No. Bad take. Never cook again.

Invisibility is too cheap.

Huh? Sounds like it is working as intended. Her whole point is to draw focus. Like draw focus away from a tank while targeting supports so they are forced to heal eachother, or a dps, or something besides paying attention to what they are supposed to be doing. A good Sombra is a nuisance, but it allows your team to make a push.

Optimal timing is a key part of it. Either a solo support, or a low DPS or low support in the backline that she can finish off.

Take away invis and she can’t do anything, she will die before she gets anywhere near in range to hack (which is basically useless now).

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