Sombra rework is a waste of time

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I’m sorry but if people are still complaining about her after she just got nerfed and when she was already a bottom 1 hero in the entire roster for several months (rounds up to a year) before that, yep that’s the line, these people will never get over their sombra derangement syndrome.

You can rework her to singlehandedly be the most fun and fair and well-designed hero but it won’t matter, the support mains will still have PTSD from the 1 in 200 games from a year and a half ago where there was actually a decent sombra in the lobby that prevented them from sitting in the backline uninterrupted for 15 minutes straight while they hold m1 beam and show off their new shop skin, and those are your target audience.

So why bother reworking. It’ll just be the same crying and wasted ban votes all over again. The only possible way out I see is if you actually change her role

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Pretty sure any version of her will still get perma banned, cause people are already not thinking when they ban her….or anybody else for that matter….

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She needs a rework to become stronger as much as she needs it to be less annoying.

Good. Do it.

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Transductor : teleport sombra to average distance and give her + x% speed boost.

Passive invisibility : sombra is clocked after x seconds out of any ennemies line of sight.

Hack : give many informations on ennemy.

Virus : - without hack : interuptor abilities.

  • With hack : silence target for much longer time.

EMP : hack + virus targets team for x seconds.

Perks ?

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Reducing the numbers of an annoying character doesn’t change what makes them annoying.

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i got a match yesterday were the enemy ball couldnt do crap thanks to me who picked sombra, could never use his slam, always hack him on midair, i guess thats why will keep be banned even if sombra actually sucks, with that says hero bans is a stupid feature developers are stupid for adding it

i have said this a lot of times, she need to combine her hacks with her virus, hacks should be a projectile so is now harder to hack, you actually need a skillshot, not like sierra “satisfying skill shot” and then she will be a lot less anyoing, is that simple

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The problem with this is that it makes hack uninterruptable to damage. Could just be hacking people from a safer distance.

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make the projectile slow, small, it needs time to be cast and that time can be interrupted with damage, you still need to aim to hit the hack, there is a lot of options to nerf it in case is too op, i mean, those idiots dont test the things they relase? i know they dont is a rhetoric question, and what they have to lose? current sombra sucks and is baned so

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Or maybe they’re just smart enough to realise balance cannot be kept in check forever in live-service games.

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smart enough yet they never added bans… until marvel rivals did it and was a success, they arent smart, didnt know what was going to happen with bans, even with bans marvel rivals is not a balanced game and neatease is smart enough to know it, they dont hide it, they dont pretend isnt the case, contrary to overwatch developers who still pretend this is a competitive game, bans are stupid, if they cant balance the game well, they cant, but dont remove content, dont remove the fun

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Once again, they already had worked on a prototype for a ban system before Rivals first beta.

Rivals to them in this context is a test dummy, not an inspiration.

Literally impossible.

It’s a live-service game. The content must keep coming and it must be able to stand out. Eventually the dam will burst.

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yeah yeah and overwatch 2 is a new engine sure whatever developers said, they never lie

literally aaron keller said only add them because marvel rivals did it, he said it, was very explicit, he was going to do nothing if marvel rivals didnt existed

then lets focus on fun, the hell with balance patches, something is op? then make everything op, remove fun is bad, is stupid

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It’s not a waste of time if she’s better to play. This is by far the worst gameplay and least like herself she’s ever been. Even launch OW2, one note assassin as it was, was better than this.

Even if she were still perma-banned, the least they could do is make her a fun QP hero. Right now she isn’t even that.

I don’t think this is true though. Or at least, we can’t conclude that yet. Every rework so far has kept the reasons people hate her, and indeed, just made her more obnoxious for the average player.

There’s a limited amount of bans and Blizzard keeps coming out with more and more competition there. A Sombra rework has plenty of chance to change perception if it’s a play-style people actually hate fighting less.

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I do wonder what they can even do for the character to not cause pain points in the player base and have her in ban jail

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They had no reason to lie.

Rivals had no traction behind it at that point, the first beta hadn’t been released nor even was there an announcement it would have bans.

Because Rivals was the test dummy. It gave them confidence that a system like the one they already had been working on would work.

No. Unless you want them to add more bans earlier than necessary of course.

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Remove invisibility. That would literally address the core issues around her entire kit. She’ll no longer be able to sit in the backline just waiting for an opportunity, she wont be able to immediately disengage, won’t be able to sneak-burst down most heroes outside of tanks…

Itll literally solve so many of her issues.

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yet they did, for years

how you know they had a beta before marvel rivals was even announced? because developers told you?

then like i said, they are no smart enough, they didnt know if something was going to work, and have proven a lot of times they have no idea what they are doing, i mean, another sombra rework and people will still hate her? they arent smart, no idea what to do

even if you only could ban 1 character is enough, they ruined ranked forever

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the problem isnt her invsibility, the problem is that stupid developers combined the invisibility with a “dash” and is impossible to deal with her, in the middle of the fight you will not see her sombra throw her translocator and is an easy scape for her

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They had no reason to lie about bans.

What?

Blizzard outright said they had a prototype for a ban system. They said this BEFORE Rivals’ first beta around EARLY 2024. They did not say it in reaction to Rivals, it wasn’t even a blip on anyone’s map at that point.

If they keep what people hate about her, yes.

No they didn’t.

They did the only thing that keeps ranked functional.

There’s a reason every character-based game does bans or has plans for bans.

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why even bother mention they had a prototype working for years and did nothing with it?

when? they said nothing until the system came out

incompetent developers if they cant fix a single character after 5 reworks

they did, hero bans is literally skill issue, if you cant deal with sombra or any character you shouldnt be playing ranked or be on a low rank and never complain