S76 can engage at range from a flank and then simply run away. He doesn’t need to get in the enemy face in the first place. He also has a nice burst damage finisher. He is better at destroying stragglers if you wish to. It’s just not the best role for him, he is even better in other applications. But again, stragglers is something I very rarely see, because again - against Sombra people mostly stick close together.
Yes peel does exist, and those DPS numbers are misleading.
Assuming your pulling it from the wiki, the overall average damage of Sombra to a hacked target is 119.3 and 95.4 when unhacked. So idk where you’re 262 damage from body shots in 1.5s with half a clip, but its just wrong.
Wow, a singular person who you’re friends with is such a strong point to go off as evidence that Sombra is totally op still.
I love how people want to forget what hyperbole is when its convenient for them
It was a random person
Sure, no struggle at all, you’re just failing to understand an unbelievably clear point while trying to compensate with sterile rhetoric. What you’re trying to argue about it’s already been debated here with people who elaborated way more than yourself and/or at least had the decency to leave the fedora at the door. Goodbye.
What a pointless reply buddy. You act like I am being hyperbolic when it suits me and Ive never been so congratulations on writing words that mean nothing.
Keep repeating “you dont understand” for 6h, its not going to become true but again, thats your call. The “fedora” thing was cringe but again, keep rambling all you want.
Werent you “leaving” or stop the replies?
Are you going to also claim that I didnt understand that either?.
Lets see if you can actually keep your word.
Oh wow, I missed this part lol. I wouldn’t even have replied to that troll if I had read that
She got the Mei/Bastion treatment by the brilliant minds at “we don’t know what our heroes were played for Blizzard” team. Honestly I was surprised that they made her playable at all.
All 3 of these heroes have suffered the same issues. They had a glaring flaw in OW1 but it created a niche for these heroes and more importantly and interesting and unique playstyle. In an attempt to remove the annoyance of these heroes, they made them all worse than their OW1 counterparts, removed the depth and the reasons to play the OW1 counterparts while simultaneously not fixing the whole reason they were reworked just making them worse across the board on heroes that were already bad.
You’ve outlined Sombra’s. Bastions was his need to have the whole team play around him and having little solo play. Blizzard then remove why you play him (damage output) by flat nerfing it and putting it on a cooldown. They then remove his self heal while keeping his astronomical hitbox the same while making him be in that huge hitbox form for long. Resulting in you needing to be permanently strapped to your support to not instantly blow up while making his ult so bad that even with it having a game breaking bug, it was still practically useless.
As a player of Mei, Sombra and Bastion and a lover of each, watching the Blizzard team butcher these heroes because they are considered unfun while at the same time allowing heroes like Sojourn to win every 1v1 in the game with little to no effort is astronomically infuriating. They don’t know what they are doing and unlike OW1, they aren’t even attempting to make the heroes fun even if they are unpowered. Just unpowered and boring.
You make me miss Dirty Bomb. So much. Also Phantom really needed a nerf after the Beyblade thing.
You did’t actually do the math or look into what those numbers actually mean did you?
The numbers you just gave are sustained dps including reload over time. Sombra does 7 points of damage per bullet unhacked, fires 20 shots per second and has 60 rounds per clip. Her burst damage vs hacked enemies post-nerf is 175 per second, 140 against unhacked targets.
If you are reloading after a hack, you are doing it wrong, and her sustained damage inckuding reloads is not relevant to her character any more than Widow’s sustained damage is. They aren’t sustained damage heroes.
Lol entirely missing the point so you can avoid facing that you yourself made an entirely pointless statement? Classic
OP was being hyperbolic, of course Sombra didnt give them literal depression, but you needed something to grasp at so you took their statement literally when literally nobody else here was
Thats again, assuming literally every bullet connects(which it wont).
Im looking at overall damage because thats the average damage a Sombra will do in that timeframe. Unless you manage to connect every shot, which kudos if you can, you are not dealing 175 damage every 1s you unload your clip.
You’re right, however she has the potential of doing 525 damage per clip, with only body shots.
Yes, not all are going to hit…less than half? Of course not, and a deecent amount should be headshots. You don’t have access to average data any more than anyone else, so you’re just pulling stuff out of your nether regions, don’t do that
Tank-Reworked-Doomfist is the god of our establishment. We worship him.
All the data ive used is on the wiki lol. Something that everyone does have access to so no, im not making up numbers.
What you also fail to acknowledge is while even if Sombra has the potential to deal somewhat decent dps, why would I do that when other heroes can get more value and higher damage for less effort? Theres no incentive to play Sombra over other heroes who just do a better job as DPS for less risk.
Not a genji main, not a sombra main but these heroes got dumped by blizzard holy
Been playing Sombra since OW1
She was weak in OW1 and almost a troll pick if you didn’t have a team to jump on hacked targets. She had great utility because of what hack and EMP did with locking abilities for the full hack
Her rework gave her damage and made her more fun to play solo although it was very busted.
Now she’s basically back to her weak OW1 damage without the longer ability lock and it’s very weak.
Now she offers no damage and less on the utility end now.
The nerfs are honestly fine besides the damage nerf….it’s simply too much
Maybe 30-35% would’ve been more fair
Or maybe keep her at 40% but perhaps lower her health like tracer/OW1 widow
She just doesn’t offer much anymore and she fits into the almost useless category of DPS characters like Sym