Every hero has at leaset 2-3 soft counters. There a multiple ways to deal with a Sombra … you can pick Mccree or Torb who are both soft counters to Sombra (I personally find Sym players problematic too), you can pick a Sombra yourself and wait in your backline and hack enemy Sombra the moment she decloaks, you can get heroes who are got at interrupting her like Moira or Winston and … and this is the best counter in my opinion … you all pick heroes who are not weak against hack.
Than he wasn’t a very clever monkey. Usually you shouldn’t be able to hack him while jumping in.
Never saw this actually work.
Very unreliable … it’s much more likely that Sombra will constantly hack you from behind and you are nothing more than a hug ult charger.
The problematic tank situation is caused by the hero designers and balancing team and Sombra can’t be held acountable.
But Sombra is one of the main reasons.
well at least according to fitzy, the best tank option to counter sombra is hog. just goes to show how hard it is dealing with sombra as a tank. you rely so much on your teammates to deal with her for you.
As far as i can tell she isnt actual meta in OWL. But agreed, she needs better hack UI. Preferably timer skulls on top of enemies and wall hacks.
Try pressuring the Sombra first. Scout her translocator placements (thanks to health packs plcements there are only so many viable ways she can set up) and make call outs to your team. Any fraction of dmg interrups her hack and once the element of surprise is gone, she cant get a hack off anymore. The only way Sombra gets anything done is when people dont respect the pick and ignore her.
Just asking, would a good Sombra only place translocators on health kits? Or are there other viable spots?
not sure either if she really is meta, or if metas even really exist (for more than a week anyway) in owl these days with hero pools mixing things up. but i know she has been played a lot from the games i watched, and she is banned from hero pool in the coming owl week 19-20.
you can look at some of fitzys gameplay, he is one of the most well known high level sombra players: Twitch .
he is throwing it around quite a lot to reach high ground instead of just keeping it on a health pack.
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Not always directly on them, but with quick acces to them. Ever since the translocator was made destructable its too risky to place them near the fight.
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this would be a great idea, maybe a hacked symbol above a character kinda like zen’s debuff or even better yet make that target visible through walls like hanzo and widowmaker?
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Yes high ground with quick access to a health pack. You wont see him set up in a place where he has to run for 10 seconds to heal up. Good exampel is 1 of the high grounds on hollywood second point near the mega on the ground.
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Why? If she was such a great pick against tanks you should see a much higher pick and winrate for her.
Maybe hog works better against her in GM … some heroes work much different in GM … but in plat and below i never saw a hog who was actually problematic to me. Sure, you have the occasional hook+hs combo that instant kills you but most of the time hogs are just ult fodder. And it’s more of a dps job to counter sombra … otherwise we could have the same argument over Phara is to oppressive against tanks.
she need her old stealth and translocator and a little % from heal.
She could use some work. I really wish I could take her into competitive and not have to rely on team comps for heavy synergy. Most of the teams during PUGS are awful. Despite Sombra is one of my most played characters. The damage she puts out is really bad.
Sombra’s viability in comp would revolve around her “Hack” ability. If it had zero interrupts it would be extremely viable in comp. Some of her interupts also do NOT work effectively against Ultimates. If she could better cancel ults. She could go from F tier to OP with just a few adjuments.
Then again, that is dangerous for such a niche character.
Sombra has one of the highest overall damage per second numbers in the game, higher than McCree’s and nearly on par with Soldier’s.
Average accuracy aside, Sombra’s damage isn’t really going to fix any problems, increased or not. She could be doing 20 damage per second more and on par with Soldier’s total numbers of 180, but that isn’t likely to happen.
If anything, there are issues with Sombra’s kit design that doesn’t create a good team-play association that should probably be addressed. Much like Orisa, Sombra is frequently played wrong.
That’s what every none-sombra player says but, she really doesn’t
Most sombra mains will agree that
- LoS checks on hacked broke her
- Infinite invis wasn’t needed
If you wanna know the history of sombra, blizzard once reworked hack, so it no longer gave ult charge from hacked healthpacks and cancelled passive abilities instead, no kidding, everybody was saying “seems like a Nerf” and ended up making sombra the best dps
…
For a week
The patch didn’t even go through any testing, they just put LoS checks, making hack EXTREMELY inconsistent
Then they added “infinite invis”, everybody was saying “woah huge buff” but most sombra mains already manages limited invis well, so, “welp this is a nerf”
Ended up going through, because us sombra mains are not important I guess… It could’ve been worse so we mitigated some damage and overall made her easier to pick up (kind of) but if you already managed your invis well then it was a Nerf since everything you do was say slower
F for sombra
Also, revert LoS checks
All she needs
Bruh please do not buff sombra, the hacks are SO annoying, like i’ll be ready to ult then boom, hacked
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I never do because HP’s are “gathering spots” and the most likely place an enemy is going to find you. Most of the time I don’t even “preplace” it. It’s too useful for vertical movement.
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No, she absolutely does not. What in the world?
Sombra does at max, 8 damage per shot, with 20 shots per second for 160 damage per second.
Comparitively, Soldier does 20 damage per shot with 9 shots per second for 180 damage per second. Sombra’s gun is comparitively one of the highest damage per second guns in the game in the damage class. Bastion, Soldier, Tracer are higher, McCree is lower by 5, everyone else is lower by numbers of magnitude.
Sombra’s spread is also smaller than Tracer’s, and comparitively similar to Soldier’s (when his shots begin to spread). Damage is not the problem with Sombra, even when factoring acccuracy to get to “true-DPS” numbers.
It’s not a good idea to have such easy hard counters against tanks and supports when they only have a pool to pick from that are each half the size of the damage pool.
If you get counter-picked as Pharah with Widow then you have 17 or whatever it is more heroes to pick from if that doesn’t suit you and maybe more importantly it actually takes a decent amount of skill to counter Pharah as Widow. All Sombra has to do is lay in wait and hold right-click when WB gets close and it’s often a death sentence for him.
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