The issue is this only works in OWL and maybe GM …. for 90%+ of all OW players she still is very weak.
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LOL I remember when the rework info came out for Sombra, I thought to myself “wow, with infinite invis and translocater not only can Sombra scout and spawn camp but she can set up super clean engagements for her team at her own pace instead of at the mercy of timers”, but nope, all the Sombra mains wouldn’t have it. They went rabid crying that she was either nerfed to oblivion because she would always be staying out of fights or that she was only made easier for noobs, and that a non-Sombra main like me just didn’t understand.
Then Sombra started getting used at pro level in Contenders, in precisely the manner I thought she could be, and Sombra mains said it wouldn’t last and was just a phase, no way Sombra would see any play at World Cup. Now she’s getting used everywhere in World Cup, and now Sombra mains are changing their tune blaming the pros for keeping her from being viable on ladder.
So the Sombra main’s “expert” opinions went full 180 from saying the Sombra changes only benefit noobs to now saying they only benefit pros. Next time I hear a Sombra main give their “expert” opinion I know exactly where they can shove it.
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There is thousand of ways to nerf her generally. But make her better in low tiers? First thing you should do is give her a Moira beam haha
It’s their fault for releasing such a team oriented hero in a game where the community hates teamwork. Of course she’s garbage for the most part.
Meaning, in less than half the maps in the USA phase of the competition, and mostly by Surefour.
Oh btw didn’t Canada lose to the US who didn’t rely on a Sombra strategy. Ok.
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Who said lower tiers? And no, that is not what’s needed.
Tell that to Roadhog.
Make her better in lower than Pro level tiers. So lower tiers
GM is not lower tier. They are two different versions of the game, played on different balance patches and everything.
Is someone going to make this thread, everytime there’s a group stage match?
People scrim with a particular team everyday for hours. Planning out what they’ll do. They can play a variety of heroes of needed.
Ladder doesn’t work that way. Sometimes you don’t have people in voice chat. Sometimes people don’t listen.
Does this mean sombra is reserved for pro plays only?
Well Moira beam was more of a joke but the high spread the devs gave her must be because they hate her to do headshots. So for Sombra to have more consistant damage, it may be better she give up headshots and get a non spread weapon instead. Or even a wide spread weapon like Mei. I think we can try many ideas in this region as long as her damage is lower than dps 180.
I’ve played maybe… 60 Sombra comp matches in the last 3 days? People will flame me if we’re winning or losing. It doesn’t matter. “Sombra please switch” as we’re going 99-0 on KOTH. Hacking enemy Reinhardts only for them to melt a second later, saving the team from enemy ults, hacking the enemy zen with ult right before a fight starts only to teleport to the front of my team again…
but…
Nobody knows how to play Sombra. Or even what she does for the team. “Haha, did everyone see my awesome Earthshatter? 6 man. I have no idea why he wasn’t holding his shield up.” She is by far one of the strongest DPS in the game right now, communication or not. Just from the fact that she can shut down enemy ultimates at whatever time she chooses. You sacrifice damage for control. And obviously she’s very difficult because of this, one mistake, and your team is toast.
That was not what we said. It was never about low tiers. It was about players that pick up because of the buffs and how these changes encurage bad behavior by staying invis forever.
Since I asume that you will twist the words in my mouth (like so many do these days) I´m going to stop here.
Great, next time someone asks our Sombra to switch to someone with more damage, I’ll just tell them to play like the world cup teams
The problem with infinite invis is that it makes her strong in proplay but keeps her pretty much trash anywhere below gm
It impossible to balance her around it for ladder and proplay aslong as she has it.
Reverting is the only option that stays.
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You’re better off speaking for yourself than for the mob. I was in the thick of it getting told I was crazy for thinking her changes were anything resembling a buff and that the disadvantages wildly outweighed any advantages that came with it. Now that pros are using her on the regular it’s pretty clear that I was right about her, while the overopinionated folks who ought to be eating crow right about now are all radio silence.
Its not right.
A hero that only works in Pro Play is not balanced or atleast wrongly balanced!
The changes where a nerf for normal ladder but made her strong in Proplay it will not be possible to balance her with it she will either be ok in Ladder but OP in Pro or trash in ladder and ok in Pro.
That is not how balance should work the dev’s said it themself they want her to be good in ladder too.
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