That is all.
post min etc blah blah
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There was a rant from I think Jeff Kaplan or someone from the overwatch team in a blizzard post showing how the vast majority of players are solo or play in pairs. The matchmaker is very good at pairing other teams in this fashion.
A small percentage of games ends up with like 5+1 v 6. While there can be more games as a 3+2+1 vs a 2+2+2 sort of situation. It does end up balancing it out more often that if your team has some oddball make up so to does the other team. Though if your in a 6-person party you will face another 6 person party.
With how infrequently it feels to happen I donât care if like 1 game in 15 ends up being some 5+1 v6 and Iâm the odd person in the team.
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Yes, I agree.
It should be groups vs groups and solos vs solos.
Especially in comp, because groups are usually in group chat instead of team chat.
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You should rightfully suffer beneath a six stacks might.
Yeah. Solo only q should have been a thing from the start especially in a game like OW where coordinated teamwork can make or break a match.
And especially because of how much this game is being pushed as a competitive game.
Hahaha. I get a group of 4 vs all solos in like 20% of my games.
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You have no idea if youâre up against stacks you just assume you are. The only time you can actually tell is in qpc and open queue where they visually show you.
Otherwise the enemy team can be three different 2stacks. Two different 3 stacks, or any other variation. Same goes for your team.
âSolo queue onlyâ would make queue times astronomical for everyone involved and would make 5stacks impossible.
It makes more sense to create a âtournament modeâ which is 6-stack only. Overwatch is designed as a team game and has multiple ways for you to form your own 6stack (âstay as groupâ and âLFGâ to name a few). If you choose to play solo, thatâs on you. Additionally 6stacks often get put against tougher opponents and theyâre not unbeatable so long as you coordinate with your team (use vc, combo, etc)
Often 6stacks are a bunch of friends usually playing with and attempting to boost a couple low rank friends. Theyâre usually not that great lol
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Game is too dead to allow this to work reasonably
A better idea would be to just disable 4/5 stacking in competitive
The group system is already nice enough to make sure your team has the same size maximum group as their team-1 (with the exception being it will make a 4 stack 2 stack against a 6 stack).
At some point you have to let people who made a group have a game and this change would mean that a 3 stack needs to wait for exactly another 3 stack of the exact missing roles in order to get a game. It would quite literally kill grouping in OW (or basically make it so that every comp game is like GM competitive where you only solo or duo).
As someone who frequently plays all forms of comp including open queue. Itâs very uncommon to get more than a game in a row without a group on one side and itâs also very typical that the team with a small group on it will be disadvantaged due to the group playing like no one else on the team exists.
It would mostly affect groups, solo players might see a slight bump in queue times but theyâd probably remain about the same.
Youâre suggesting they create a game mode for 6 stacks which is an exceptionally rare way of playing this game. VS them just giving solo players a place to play solo which would improve game quality for the majority of their players.
6 Stacks are not common enough to be an issue, the problem is 2/3 stacks who play as if the rest of the group doesnât exist.
Agreed you could still run teams of2-2-2, 4-2, 3-3, & 6
Being the +1 in a 5-1 team sucks because either you get a good team or a bad team and the team you do get will almost always prioritize their group members especially when it comes to heals and rez even if your better that the other group membersz. They also have to much sway when it comes to stategy because their groupâs idea will always be the one they go with unlike random 6 players where they all hold the same sway equally.
5 stacks can use LFG, your getting a random player either way, same thing.
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the thing that prompted me to post this was getting games where there would be 2 dmg players queueâd up together, and not in voice, and underperforming. i hate that.
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I remember when Jeff Kaplan had to add.
â25 character minimum on my own damn forumsâ
You can see it in other game modes though. Thereâs hella loads of 3/4/5+1/1/1 teams out there.
We need clans
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There was this one time where I was put, as a soloQ, in a team full of soloQ.
The opposite team was a six stack with only one account over level 29
Queue took less than 20 seconds
I was like 3100-3200 and the whole opposite team was masters.
I think that was my last comp match.
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DudeâŚ
If 20+ minute queue times sound like your idea of fun, then by all means, keep persuing this lol.
Easier thing to do is just group up with some people. Not saying you have to, just saying.
Itâs too late for them to do this now. They could adopt a similar system to League but the playerbase has already hugely declined so queue times would only get worse.
But it would discourage making groups. Some players already are complaining, that matchmaking nullifies advantage they expected to have by making group, by putting similar group against them.
Groups are created not to enjoy âfairâ games.
That sounds fine until you consider this little thing called queue time/matchmaking
A solo queue would make grouping impossibleâŚâŚlike youâd literally be discouraging grouping (in a team game mind you)
Rather than doing that they should probably do more to encourage groupingâŚâŚlike say perhaps incentivizing/improving the group finder (which was basically abandoned as soon as it was released)