you mean like on youtube? i dont think i have OBS set up currently for screen capture so, i dont know that i could post one.
i use arrge’s recommendation for mouse and dpi. i run 800 dpi in my mouse software and 4.60 in game sensitivity
Bronze: Tank: Hog DPS: Soldier, Mcree, Genji, Pharah, Echo, Tracer, Widow, Hanzo, Junk Support: Zen and Reddit Lucio
Silver: Tank: Hog and Zarya DPS: Mcree, Genji, Pharah, Echo, Tracer, Hanzo, Junk, Doomfist(HAVE TO be consistent) Support Zen
Gold: Tank: Hog, Zarya, Rein(maybe good team) DPS: Mcree, Genji, Echo, Tracer, Junk, Hanzo, Doom(HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT) Support: Ana Bap Moira
Plat: Tank: Hog, Zarya, Rein, Sig DPS: Mcree, Genji, Echo, Tracer, Hanzo Support: Ana Bap Brig, Mercy
Diamond, Masters, GM: One tricks/metas/ Diamond is elo hell no one knows what to expect there.
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so…my SR has dropped to under 700…but im getting put in games with people who are 900 SR? why is that?
Not many people are 700 sr and 600-900 sr are about the same skill lvls anways
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lol, translation…“you are so bad, you are in the no mans land of SR” rofl
Try posting a vod review, such as your amazing 4 gold Moira game.
I guarantee you’re making big errors.
As to my tank play, I know what my issues are, I just need to fix them.
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It literally isn’t though. They just have better reaction time than they would when they are older. That doesn’t teach you positioning, game sense, or game knowledge, all of which are things that have nothing to do with age. You can keep on pointing at the fact he’s young, but that’s not the reason he’s better. He’s better because he learned how to play the game.
Mentality like yours isn’t going to help you climb.
And yes, I’m still referring to this. If you want to climb, drop any mentality that there’s one reason or another someone is able to be a higher rank than you. It’s all an excuse, and it’s not going to help you climb.
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The game we won against you just 20 minutes ago, didn’t put me above <500. I’m still doing the 1-trick Moira challenge from <500 to 900sr, but even winning 90% of the matches I’m still there. And ofc the match I’m in right now looks like a rigged smurf hell so losing that isn’t going to get me above <500 tonight.
thats why i was saying i agree with you, for the most part. the reason why is…ive had so many matches where, in the first round, we’ve decisively beaten the other team…then in the second round, they were impossible to make any ground against.
now, someone will say “well, they changed their comp and got their act together”…which, sure, maybe…but in the low levels im playing at…most people dont get on board…it is rare to see a team completely do a 180 and all the sudden be working as a team.
those kind of swings dont just happen out of the blue…it just seems there is something behind it…otherwise, it is just too hard to explain that at first, one team is dominant, then in round 2, they are the weaker team. this happens all the time. ive heard…long ago…that blizzard has a algorithm that tries to balance the outcome of the game…and i dont know about anyone else, but i cannot begin to count the times where, if you win the first round…you will always lose the second round. this happens…soo…many…times…it cannot be just random chance.
i wasnt using it as an excuse…i know i dont play great, i was just making a statement that usually, young kids are better at shooters…maybe not at strategy…but at the actual game play…running, aiming, shooting, jumping…all that…
also, and i cant believe that we have gotten so far from the actual original point of my thread, but…my original point was that, to climb out of bronze, you need to be either so good, that you can carry your team to victory, or you need to be in a pre made. i say this because the only way to rank up is to gain SR, and the only way to gain SR is to win. you lose SR for losses, and you gain SR for wins.
if you are in bronze, and at the mercy of random grouping, with people who are uncoordinated, not on the same page, and generally not working as a team…which most bronze games are, then you are not winning. i know i know, “but what about all the people who have climbed out of bronze solo”…to which, i cant tell you the answer. all i know is that you cannot win consistently without team effort…and if you are are good enough to carry your team to victory, that means you are good enough to overcome all the flaws of your own team, as well as the other team, to force your team to victory. if that is the case, then you are most certainly much better than the bronze rank, and yes, you will surely break out.
ive said it before, i dont consider myself a great player…but ive certainly been one who tries…and i play as best i can in each game. ive always thought that i was better than bronze. many people have said “all you need to do to break out of bronze is just do the bare minimum”, basically saying…if you have a pulse, you can break out of bronze.
i disagree…ive posted some of my game play…while not spectacular…i think it’s surely more than “the bare minimum”. but, no matter how well I myself play, if we lose the match, then we lose SR, and that translate into being stuck in bronze permanently.
but alas, there is an end to this saga…as, ive pretty much just given up on caring about comp. i was told “dont play mercy in bronze, it’s bad”, and “you need to play bap, or lucio, and you’ll rank up!”. well, i tried that…and ive had some good games, getting decent kills and fairly good healing, and my SR has plummeted. i believe yesterday, i was around 850, today im at 630, and frankly, as hard as i play, i just no longer see the point of even caring about comp. most matches are no fun, because most of the time, it’s so lopsided, and one team usually steamrolls the other, and you can give each match your best effort, and despite you doing well, it all goes to waste if you lose the match and end up losing SR anyway.
honestly, ive kind of decided i want to go the other way. im now more interested in seeing how low i can go…where is the bottom. no, that doesnt mean ill throw, ill keep playing as hard as i can…but, at this point, im so far in the hole…it just seems easier to go to the bottom than the top, so that’s what im shooting for.
i wish it werent so…id love to be able to compete…but, im apparently not good enough to carry teams to victory, so I can rise out of the lowest ranks.
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If your team is uncoordinated then so is the enemy.
This is why Reaper so good at low elo. He murders uncoordinated teams.
Hog, with a degree of mechanical skill, murders uncoordinated teams.
Not sure what support does so. As I mentioned, Lucio can thrive in a chaotic death match environment.
And as to your Moira example. Lost a game with Zarya. 38 elims, 28 high energy, 3 golds, 1 silver. Enemy Reaper just carried better. If I’d have played better we’d have won. Maybe Dva, with her matrix, would have been a better pick?
Also, lost a tank game on Busan. We stomped them round 1. Round 2 enemy changes to Pharmercy. We get wrecked rounds 2 and 3. Nobody on the team can cope with it. My Dva mechanics not good enough to counter it. One enemy change wrecked us.
If you are not winning in your current rank then you do not belong in a higher rank. That is the simple truth. Disregard what anybody else says. The system is quite simple.
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Yes on YouTube would be fine. If you get it setup and can post a quick clip, I do love to take a look
That’s a medium sens (37cm/360), not bad.
Do you have a complimentary mouse pad? A mousepad that compliments your sensitivity. For example:
I myself play at 800 DPI + 8 OW sensitivity (21cm/360), which is on the very fast end. I also fingertip grip my Viper Mini on a Logitech G440 Hardpad with No Friction.
Since you play at a medium sens, you should rather a medium friction mousepad
I agree with this OP
Until I’m shown hard evidence otherwise, I really don’t believe a GM Or T500 player can carry 5 bronze players. The game doesn’t judge you on your individual performance, it judges you on whether “VICTORY” or “DEFEAT” shows up on your screen.
“Hard evidence” otherwise? You mean like the literal hundreds (if not thousands) of streamers doing Bronze -> GM for content over the years?
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Bronze to gm is pretty degenerate.
But gold to gm is fair game as that’s due to the rubbish placement system.
Can also be very informative. Mainly in terms of mind set and how these players are sanguine about losses, even when they occur playing at 2000 sr below their real skill level.
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Doesn’t seem feasible does it? Anyone who can completely carry a group of bronze players to victory would have to be awfully damn good, but they say this is what you have to do, simply to rise from bronze to silver. Its hard for me to fathom but apparently people do it every day. They say that gold is the “average rank” which means that if im in bronze, apparently I am way worse at the game than the average player.
I used to think I was at least a silver or gold level player but this thread has taught me that, since I’m not able to compensate for the disorganization and flaws of 5 other people, while at the same time overcoming the disorganization and flaws of the 6 people on the other team, then I am only bronze level.
The strange thing is, someone else posted their vod code in another thread about their being stuck in the 2500 range. I watched that vod, not for the dps and tanks, I was interested in how 2500 level supports play and to be honest, I didn’t really see any difference in how they were playing, and how I play. Granted, my untrained eye probably can’t spot the differences. On the surface, however, from what I could see, my mercy was as good as their mercy. So, how is it that I’m in the 600 sr tier and they are in the 2500 tier?
So, from what I’ve gathered after this thread, in order to simply make the jump from bronze to silver, as a support, you have to be good enough to carry a team. I’m assuming that means scoring high in healing and kills and objective time, pretty much every match.
I think that’s a bit of a stretch just to break out of bronze, but, I guess I can’t disagree with the many people who say it happens all the time.
I picked up the game again last year, and I have climbed up to 1700s from being <500 as support. I have reached silver on all roles from being bronze by solo queueing. So I would say it’s fairly possible to climb up from bronze solo queueing. If your team plays really well and stomps the other team, you can stay as a team and also play a few matches together too and you can climb as well. Climbing as support by solo queueing is hard, but not utterly impossible. You need to know who to keep alive, who to heal. It’s more of a triage process - who should stay alive and who is better off dead in the match. Don’t go for idiotic rezzes, dmg boost your dps/tank who is getting more job done etc. In my opinion it’s better to play as Ana/Bap/Zen to climb up or you can go DPS Moira all the way.
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New vid just popped up on YouTube.
A10, Placement to gm, Zarya only, 100% win rate. Vid is 9 hours long, so still took a while.
Looks like he’s including some theory as well to make it educational.
Edit, started watching it. He’s giving a lecture on patching and natural cover. Think I’ll check this out on my quest to hit silver.
Edit 2, he’s talking about off angles, perpendicular push and lane control, amongst other concepts I’ve never heard of. Mind blown.
Yeah it’s silly when people actually believe they are being held in their rank by the matchmaker. The only thing that holds anybody in their rank is their own skill. As you can see, when you have the skills to belong in a higher rank, you breeze ahead to that higher rank.
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I personally, and I am not ashamed to admit it, googled terms like “what are off angles in OW” (I know what the word off angle means but I personally never understood it in this game in particular). I did the same with terms like “what does taking space as Tank actually mean in OW ?”
My first two search results led me to reddit topics talking about that in particular and someone actually explaining it in terms of “what are off angles for dummies” while providing some screenshots from some custom games in OW depicting just that.
I never felt like a lesser or more of a stupid player by actually posing that basic question. I understand it more now than I did about 2 months ago. If more people did that and if more people would put their egos aside and actually try to “dumb” it down the better they would do in their matches.
I have watched like a million of unranked to GM’s and for the most part I personally did not understand what they meant with " I am doing this specific thing here because of that and that" until I actually googled it 
No shame in admitting when you fully do not understand something. But once you fully understand it your games become a lot different.
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