Because Winston is a terrible pick? Why are you trying to use an argument which is completely inaccurate. Ana replaces Moira and gets more value from because of her utility and capability to not miss shots due to large hit box tanks.
He is the most meta main tank. Ladder and tourney play are very different, and the latter still prefers Winston over Rein in the vast majority of situations, despite ladder pickrates.
Winston is only a terrible pick if your team is uncoordinated and your main tank doesn’t know how to not feed. This is true on almost 100% of the ladder.
Any form with GOATs that uses Zen counters Ana GOATs. The most efficient form of Zen GOATs uses Winston. This is not a hard concept.
Because Blizzard lack the competence to just nerf, it has to be a full on character crushing nerf and it’s moronic.
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No he is not the most meta main tank wtf are you on?
`https://www.overbuff.com/heroes
You are linking me ladder pickrates to disprove my point despite me repeatedly addressing them. Rein is easy to play around and ladder is a cavalcade of errors, even in GM. That is why he is picked there.
When your team is all on the same page, you want Winston, because having a main tank with vertical mobility is indispensible when your team is able to take their thumbs out of their posteriors and actually play around that.
Funny how every single game I’ve watched Rein Zar seems to be THE most optimal pick in most situations. Except when high ground is involved but other than that Rein Zar will be picked due to synergy between Brig and Rein.
This is the vast majority of maps in the game.
Dive was dominant for so long partially because of game design. Rein cannot contest high ground, so on maps where there is high ground, running a team that can’t contest it is akin to throwing.
Are you joking me? Even then a monkey jumping into the backline should be hard focused. Which we did and won every single map.
Again, you beating a bad team doesn’t mean Winston is bad.
Or maybe it’s because kids like you who genuinely can’t distinguish someone having a very good amount of skill from a hero actually being broken.
Wow, that Hanzo is really, really good. Even though that player might have put in a ton of hours on him and is going ham and probably has insane skill, the hero must be OP.
This forum still complains about Genji even after 2 whole years of practice to get good at the game. Take that in. Even though Genji is the most telegraphed hero in the game and is easy to track because of double jump, he’s still somehow broken.
I don’t like it really, but what can I do about it?
In retrospect, the entirety of the “Moth Meta” - what have you - was caused by the reworked. No other variables were changed.
Before, Ana and Mercy worked well together. They still do. It’s just now Mercy falls over toward the sidelines as her healing cannot complete with the others’ (Ana, Moira) and her ultimate cannot reliability counteract any incoming damage unless you are behind a shield.
Ana needs aim. Mercy needed mental notetaking. Now all she needs is…a shield. Her Ultimate is a lackluster Zen ult, and she just… flies? Her E is a stun with the potential to be the most brokenly powerful ability in No Limits/Customs/Total Mayhem. Even worse than MR. The most effective strategy was to tempo res. That’s how I did it 95% of the time. It helps keep the fight going if you use it correctly.
With Ana…it has the potential to completely end a fight. Resurrect helps momentum and Nano stops it in motion - transferring aggro to the person with the bigger heal pool and damage resistance. It keeps her team alive, sure, but a Nanobladed Genji can teamwipe quicker than Mercys can process information due to the speed of the character. Unless the Mercy planned two or three steps ahead, it’s a fight stopper.
Don’t even get me started on Nano Bob. Ugh…
To keep on topic, I don’t think this is…bad…just very distasteful and it shows to me how much this game has shifted to a more competitive environment and is pushing away the casuals and others who liked the different twist on a regular fptbs.
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I think it was because of the rez. Really. High mercy pick rate,many rezzes , high ana pick rate,no rezzes.
People didn’t like rez ,that’s it.
These stats are no longer accurate tho because of private profiles.
No he’s bad alright. No matter what argument you try and pose Winston will still be outclasses by Rein. The stats speak for themselves.
Yeah sure whatever you say, the ladder that is full of people not in voice and slampicking 3-4 DPS in a 0 DPS meta is definitely the be all and end all of the state of play. You stomped a bad amateur team while they were running Winston so Winston sucks. You got me.
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But she’s unpickable because you’ll tilt the crap out of your team if you don’t pick the current hero accepted as the best. They’ll either throw, report you, or both.
I agree it’s not good.
Now can we wait until this Brig patch change happens, and Ana’s get dived on more, and forced to switch?
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What? Are you sure about that? I was under the impression that most people considered her low skill.
It’s hypocritical more than anything.
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Except there is also Winston and Hammond.
I think you don’t understand what a “main tank” is. You think a “main tank” uses shields to guard the team, right? Well, that’s wrong.
There are main tanks and off tanks. The main tanks make space. That’s Reinhardt, Orisa, Winston and Hammond. The off tanks peel. That’s Zarya and Roadhog.