So the game updates was at glacial pace under kaplan

Nah, the 5v5 moved game for at least half a year itself
How? Balance, you say “they just rework few heroes and we done”
nope, no sir, it will not do for OW2, why? PvE.
You need to balance game around heroes that you have in game to play it. No way around it, but how you really balance pve missions around something that does not exist? Answer, you dont, they either had it balanced before for heroes from current state, or have to wait for balance team decisions on this to make the rest.
Im used to long development time and being dissapointed with games, nothing new with this game. Best thing you can do to voice your opinion is to not buy their products and hope its more general people problem than just you.

Thanks, that wasn’t the question.

What do YOU do for a living that puts you in a position to call these people lazy?

I’m assuming nothing of note at all because people that actually build things that are important understand that things take time.

Unless you can prove me wrong of course.

i don’t have anything to prove to you. Answer the question. How do you lose MAUs during a time when people are at home in record numbers?

What do you do for a living? Well besides make excuses for lazy people.

What are you on about? :’)

I can’t believe people seriously think that changing the game to 5v5 has added 6 months onto development time :rofl:

Yeah, they just announced 5v5 and immediately started working on balance which delayed the games release /S

They hadn’t planned for OW2 to be 5v5 months or a year in advanced /S

I didnt say it moved it from announcement of 5v5, but from time they started to think to put it in. And it cant be that old idea since only few heroes got changed so far and i doubt thats all they do to some of them.
I say it as DECISION to do 5v5 moved OW2 more out, and because they still didnt deal with hero balance, its still affecting development of PvE now. So even if it was planned like 2 years ago, they could not work around what is not out to this day back then.

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Ok so you literally have no achievement to date that you can mention.

It’s always the people that have done nothing that have something to say about the people doing something.

  1. Activision Blizzard grew in MAUs due to CoD, which is clearly where their money is going
  2. engagement grew sharply with OWL which is what they invested their OW dollars in (which was clear from their year end report (I invest in Activision Blizzard)

Even if they gained nothing all this time and all their businesses tanked - you are still talking like someone that has achieved nothing in their life

Creators and successful people don’t personally insult people trying build and minimize the effort it takes to create

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That s fine too. As long as they are not working for me, they can do whatever they want, be it at their home or at their office. It’s not my right to call them out

I mean, the game has had very few major new additions in the last 3 years which correlates to Blizzard’s focus on OWL.

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Updates were the same as usual in 2018-2019 and even picked up a little after introducing the Experimental card. The slow down correlates more to them shifting to OW2 production than anything related to OWL.

OWL has had next to zero impact on development after it was created. Only dev side resources they used are a few skins a year and the replay viewer, which was eventually added for everyone.

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Competent software companies dealt with COVID without significant issues.

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Either way, it’s clear that OW(1) was largely abandoned which is poor stewardship.

This game was designed and has been balanced with esports in mind since day 1. OWL hasn’t changed that.

More like thy followed guide lines by the government. Any company that does a work from home policy I consider competent.

Also covid effects more than just software companies.

heres 1 way that covid could majorly slow down their work
most game companys rent a building with recording stuff to record voicelines (and such)
now lets say at the start of the pandemic that place had to shut down until the vaccine came out thats 1 year of work pushed back and all the work that was already booked slowing down that entire process which is pretty important for what they are trying to do

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Yes, I agree it has been abandoned. I don’t believe it is a question of competence.

I think it’s a strategic choice.

This may be true, but in some ways that makes Blizzard even worse than if they were just incompetent.

Well at the end of the day, it’s just business.

I think the way they see OW2 is that it will be set up to bring in money on an ongoing basis like CoD.

I don’t know anyone that has bought a loot box in the past 2 years.

Rather than lose money investing in OW1, I think they are just investing in OWL and OW2 for the long term.

First of all, correlation does not imply causation.

But what did they add to the game in the first two years that you consider a major new addition that they didn’t add in the following years?

For sure, I competely understand. I actually respect Blizzard in a way - they know exactly how much they can tread the fine line of acting like complete trash, treating their customer’s with contempt, and pandering to brutal dictatorships in order to push profits. It’s an excellent business strategy from a shareholder’s perspective.

Unfortunately, of course this makes Blizzard kind of a scummy company (which is well understood at this point).

I’m not saying that either - I’m saying that this is the reason people tend to associate the rise of OWL with the decline in content releases. I don’t think that’s a terribly off-base observation either, even if I don’t necessarily believe myself.