So... Symmetra is useless against shields, kind of ironic

[Cheddar-22950]

So dev team focused her into shield busting

Do you a have quote or link where they said this?

[Morbo-11711]

She just needs a range increase so she can break down barriers more safely.

[Chemi-21869]

you missed the the point entirely, I didnt said the’re 1vs1, just that she is useless in terms of melting shields because whatever is behind that shield will kill you since you have to stay too close to the shield

[Ephemiel-1266]

And again i mention that you won’t just die because YOU HAVE A TEAM WITH YOU.

You seem to act like the tank will literally ignore everyone and go to you because you’re a Symmetra.

[DSPMankey-1515]

But sym is in the damage class. She shouldn’t be relying on teammates for damage.

[Chemi-21869]

@GeoffGoodman

Yes. We’re still trying some things but whats working pretty well right now is her primary fire changed to no longer lock on but works as a straight beam that is fairly thick and has increased range. It still has the potential to gain extra damage by dealing damage like it does now, but instead of going 30/60/120 dps it is currently 65/130/195 dps. However, it now takes a combined 2 seconds of damage to ‘level up’ to the next tier of damage instead of 1 second. This means the weapon has significantly more potential but it is more difficult to get it to max power. Also, when hitting a barrier it currently generates ammo instead of consuming it. This means not only is she good at taking down barriers themselves, but she is good at just generating charge off barriers and using that charge to take down enemies as well.

Her alternate fire is still a charge-up large projectile, but it has a bunch of important changes as well. First off, it charges to max charge in 1 second, down from 2 seconds. Next, the projectile speed has increased significantly, currently it has changed from 10 m/s to 30 m/s. Lastly, instead of piercing enemies, it now impacts enemies/environments and explodes, dealing area damage around it. We’ve been heavily iterating on how much damage this ball deals now, but a direct shot has been hovering in the area of 130ish, with a large % of the damage coming from a direct impact (rather then the explosion).

I’ll say it here again, we are still pretty heavily iterating on this stuff so this is all subject to change, but we like to try to give you guys some insight as to whats going on with her rework as it stands today.

there you go

[Ephemiel-1266]

We’re not talking about damage to people nor did i say you should depend on your team for damage [also, you seem to forget “damage” is also what used to be “defense”].

You can easily melt a shield while the enemy is focused on someone else. You can also complain that you’ll be “insta-killed”, but i’m pretty sure actually being with your team is far better.

[Chemi-21869]

correct

We’re not talking about damage to people nor did i say you should depend on your team for damage [also, you seem to forget “damage” is also what used to be “defense”].

You can easily melt a shield while the enemy is focused on someone else. You can also complain that you’ll be “insta-killed”, but i’m pretty sure actually being with your team is far better.

you clearly didn’t played her at all lol

[Nyx-15996]

A range increase is what she needs more than anything 15m would help a lot

[Krikenemp-1823]

And again i mention that you won’t just die because YOU HAVE A TEAM WITH YOU.

You seem to act like the tank will literally ignore everyone and go to you because you’re a Symmetra.

When was the last time your shield tank literally had their barrier touching the enemy’s barrier? Because that never happens for me.

And yes, tanks usually try to kill things that can’t hurt them and are standing completely open in front of them. Sym doesn’t have the range to reach the enemy barrier while being behind her own tank most of the time, especially if the enemy is on high ground.

[Ergotth-1602]

you’re not supposed to casualy go towards the tank, wave him a “namaste” and start melting the shield, this works when the tank is PREOCCUPIED with the rest of your team, just like flankers and snipers need the enemy team distracted. No DPS is “self-sustainable”, they will ALWAYS need the team. Either to keep them alive, bust their defenses or bait the team to one direction so you can flank on the other. Symmetra’s primary fire is to melt that Orisa or Winstom shield while they aren’t focusing on you, or just charge up on their barrier so you can turn her charged beam at someone else with full ammo. I do agree Symmetra could use some more sustain, like a boost of 50 HP, or as once suggested, generate self-shield with her primary fire.

[Stix-11542]

I think the problem here might be that you’re standing out in the open, battering a barrier through which the enemy can shoot you, thinking that you should be able to get away with that.

[RicardoC-11211]

The let’s both teams gather in a 10m radius circle to make Symm viable.

[SALOCH1N-1185]

I think the problem here might be that you’re standing out in the open,

You mean where all the barriers are? The point of a barrier is to be able to stand out in the open beacaud it offers protection

[Chainer-11104]

I mean… I would, if a Sym walks up to my shield to get charge off im gonna smack her to prevent that.

[HanzoSwitch-2702]

range increased ok but against barriers only

[Krotoan-1841]

with… what?

[Devildog-12970]

honestly i used to think she was fine before this change, id even actually use her and have fun, but today…im never touching her again. whats her ult even supposed to do, all it seams to do is make people walk through it to fight each other. its like everyone just is annoyed by it on both sides

[Frantastick-11391]

I mean, yeah but she’s better in a lot more things now.

[Stix-11542]

You mean where all the barriers are? The point of a barrier is to be able to stand out in the open beacaud it offers protection

In case I wasn’t clear, “out in the open” here refers to not using any sort of cover of your own while slamming your face into an enemy barrier.