When are they taking out doomfist across the map punches?
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Not true. Brig and Moira got their jump bugs removed, as did Genji. Doom can still RP through a second story window, and Mercy still has her jump.
It’s about impact on game balance, not what class it belongs to.
Yes, the people who whine about DPS role/players or say “Devs only cater to DPS!” are idiots, but this isn’t a great way to enlighten them.
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At the same time they’re taking out Dooms ability to momentum cancel on punch…
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It was op. Get over it. Moira and Brigitte had theirs nerfed/taken, rein had his hammeretrike cancel removed. It’s not only dps.
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Imho it could have been tweaked and given it a feature if we’re still to keep all those notorious things like superjump, Rp on slopes, etc.
theyd literally have to rewrite all movement code in the game to remove momentum carry
Yeah lets take out about the only thing actually interesting mechanically from Mercy’s kit. FWIW, Blizz is on record saying they are specifically not fixing it. They like it.
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And how do you know they wouldn’t have to with superjump?
As far as I can tell, I have never seen a Mercy jump from one spawn to another in the span of 4 seconds and yeet a member of the backline, then safely float back to the team.
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How can you compare super jump to echo literally flanking you 5 seconds in the match from spawn to spawn?
Super jump is situational and it only moves you vertically, plus Mercy is the support with the least offensive capabilities i think that giving her survivability is not the end of the world. Sure i agree that if they want it to stay it should be stated in the hero abilities list or something
Newsflash buddy - Mercy superjump and Doom superjump work off exact same code.
You want one gone, lose the other.
But of course you only want the Mercy one gone, because lol of course you do.
P.S. Ok, DPS main.
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Never. Mercy’s super jump is good, don’t get me wrong but it’s nowhere near as obnoxious as Echos, which lets her independently scale an entire map in 5 seconds while also maintaining her already obnoxious burst damage. Mercy requires LINE OF SIGHT of a team mate which makes it a much more team reliant ability.
Idk how you’re comparing echos ability to move across an entire map vs mercy being able to move like 30 metres. One is clearly way more broken and one is clearly way more situational and requires a higher level of skill,timing and positional awareness seeing as her ability to super jump is almost 100% reliant on where her team mates are, and not just pressing shift and spacebar and flying 300 metres.
None of the other flankers like genji or tracer get such a powerful “get out of jail free card” not to mention none of them have as much burst damage as echo, so why should echo, who is clearly overturned in every aspect already, also be able to reliably get herself back to spawn from the other side of the map with one cool down.
If you wanna remove mercy’s super jump then u gotta also remove doomfist punching diagonally onto the top of buildings without even using his vertical mobility cooldows. You claim it’s never supports but brig had a jump glitch that was taken out, while doomfist, one of the most oppressive CC and Oneshot heroes in the game, gets to keep his absurd tech. Ok dps main.
It really sounds like you’re biased towards dps because it’s not seeming like mercy’s super jump was something you wanted gone if echo got to keep her super jump, but now echo doesn’t get to keep hers, you wanna make things worse for other heroes with tech that clearly isn’t as overpowered as echos… But you do you bro, mercy’s super jump isn’t going anywhere. Also choosing to selectively ignore the fact that supports have had movement tech nerfed or removed isn’t going to strengthen ur point. This game does pander to dps because it’s their largest player base. It’s a fact, you cannot deny it, and Echos blatantly overpowered super jump being nerfed isn’t somehow an argument against that.
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When doom gona get his bugs that help him rp up removed. And other technics that let him fly up more than he should.
brig had her bug that let her fly removed.
Fix them all. Not just few heroes, im full up with this.
Just stop it. Mercy did not traverse entire maps in a few seconds with super jump. You literally can’t do that.
Yeah sure, it has NOTHING to do with the jump cancellation of an ability (see how it was literally called “B-hop”).
Jesus man, there’s no need to be so toxic. Grow tf up
the burst of speed from canceling only happens with glide mechanic.
doomfist carries momentum, he doesn’t get a burst like mercy does, and echo did.
you can easily see she gets a burst because HOW ELSE WOULD SHE FLY 10 FEET IN THE AIR
read a book.
Because they took an exploit and converted it into an actual feature as Mercy needs the mobility to support her team. Sadly she doesn’t have that independant movement or speed.
Originally it was suggested prior to Echo’s announcement that we wanted Mercy’s Res and Valkyrie to be switch, for E Valyrie to either be a free flight which I personally argued against in the Megathreads and the other side being a Vertical boost so Mercy can ascend then control her descent with Angelic Descent.
Funny enough, Echo was originally designed as a Support and I bet they used Mercy as the base model for their alpha build and the flight system is actually base off of Mercy’s functionality hence why that exploit exist but they forgot to test/check for it and hence the bunny hop patch was never applied to Echo.
Echo’s flight boost exploit is also a problem for us supports trying to heal her, since she boost right out of my Guardian Angel and I can’t even remain tethered to her and if she dies that player gets tilted after 4 or 5 deaths demanding heals but none of the supports can get to her
But TLDR, just remember that Echo was built from Mercy to be the independant flight version, it isn’t a surprise if she was since Moira, Brigitte and Baptise all have tweaked elements of Mercy feedback that we flooded the forums into the megathreads with (that wasn’t just a crying thread, thats a thread with 12000 comments rich with ideas and suggestions on how to improve Mercy but was instead added into new characters)
Not sure about a book but you might want to consider a dictionary there friend
Mercy should be able to fly to teammates not up.
Doomf should only be able with rocket punch to go foward, and when hit anything on his patch stop on it insted of launch off it to go up because its end of object.
They bouth need fix in my book, just like brig had her super bash removed back in the day 
Echo fly cross the map for free.
Mercy need a team mate.
So yeah let super jump for Mercy.