So downvotes are completely gone now?

That doesn’t make any sense. It’s upvote = I agree, downvote = I disagree. Not upvote = I agree, downvote = you’re trolling. If downvotes are being removed upvotes should be removed as well.

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it’s more upvote = ‘i think this post is good at contributing to a discussion or says something thoughtful’

It was incredibly stupid to open a thread where the OP was censored because it was an unpopular opinion. Not having downvotes and only upvotes means constructive and well written posts will be applauded and people that trolls will get punished by the new forum guide lines.

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It’s good it’s gone. Because some people just downvotes topics just because instead of giving feedback. Which led to more downvotes of others doing the same thing.

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Then dislikes which are used to mark trolling or irrelevant posts are also used to mark posts people disagree with, can you not see how messy that is?

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@Riceball-11421 Do you feel like the scoreboard will tell you something you do not already know? I am personally in favor of it, but to be honest I don’t think the majority of players will use it correctly. even if every single data point was given they are still going to argue a dps issue for low damage instead of blaming the tank for never initiating. Ignoring a dps who dives and feeds, but gets numbers because of it.

That is the problem with a scoreboard.

Similarly, downvotes are a passive aggressive tool. it doesn’t actually create a dialog, but rather simply allows the passive aggressive person to be negative without the risk to themselves for downvoting. If anyone is a delicate snowflake it would be the person downvoting and hiding behind it. Now they have to make a bold statement and stand up to others disagreeing with them

Trolling is inherently disagreeable. Downvotes reflect disagreement. I don’t see the problem.

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No they’re not, I can remember countless times when someone would make a serious post I agree with and people would downvote and say “Bad bait”. So they’re not mutually disagreeable.

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it’s passive agressive and allows someone to tear down others without actually saying anything. You are not disagreeing when you downvote, you are simply saying “this made me feel sad”. Not helpful to a conversation, not productive to a solution.

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Lol. Are you projecting? How does downvoting = “this makes me sad?” It’s more like “your post is stupid so I’m giving it a thumbs down.” The sad ones are the ones who get offended by people disagreeing with them and think they’re entitled to a 14 paragraph essay detailing why.

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I’m glad they’re gone.

Now people actually have to think of a counter argument if they think someone’s wrong and not just press a magical red button because they’re salty.

People actually have to discuss on the discussion forums now if they want input. It’s nice.

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I don’t understand why you remove one and not the other. If you’re arguing that downvotes are passive aggressive, I can see where you’re coming from even if I don’t agree. Is throwing a like up without replying really any different? A like for I agree or I think this post contributes something valuable is the same principle as a dislike for I disagree or this post contributes nothing.

I think you should remove them both or the like becomes the same as a participation trophy: meaningless glitter.

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To be honest I usually pressed Show Post on threads no matter the dislikes. Why miss out on information just because the community dislikes it?

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This is definitely part of the reason. We also wanted to encourage people to write a constructive counterpoint rather than using the downvote button to hide someone’s opinions/thoughts.

That being said, we’re still working on the system, so we’re definitely looking for ways to improve the system. And we’re taking your feedback very seriously.

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I used to love seeing how many salty downvotes I could accrue for stating opinions that didn’t conform to the norm around here.

A pity. Oh well.

Honestly not feeling these new forums either. Like I don’t want to spend an hour scrolling through every reply to the thread, it’s easier to just click through page numbers.

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We can upvote dev responses now. :o

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Sometimes posts to not require a reply. If you don’t like it and don’t want to bump the post you don’t like downvoating was perfect.

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You should definetly get rid of the 20 characters requirement for adding a comment.

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If I dont like something I dont like it. Not everything needs a “constructive counterpoint” because you dont like something.

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You all made the correct decision by removing downvotes. In my opinion but I do understand the argument of downvoting troll threads and spam. Maybe if you all brought back downvotes you all could add a feature that makes the downvote give an actual reply. Maybe 50 characters or more so you all can see it’s real reason for the downvote and not a troll.

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