So can we kill the ‘Doomfist is OP’ myth?

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Ana can Sleep him easily

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im no ml7 its pretty tough i miss as much as i hit him and i have no follow though once slept him teammates did enough to wake him so he can upper cut and kil me and get out, everyone was so busy to avoid him from hog to echo.

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So you either get my point and ignored it or you don’t get it. Got it.

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I got it. But walking off a clearly defined map ledge, and appearing out of nowhere off a roof aren’t really fully analogous.

Especially since Reaper retreat range is a ton shorter than Doom.

Not to mention the difficulty of Reaper sneaking into your backline with a giant whirling blackcloud is a lot more difficult than flying over a rooftop.

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You forget that Reaper has a more reliable weapons + healing with each shot

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I don’t see how that’s relevant in fights where your victim isn’t even aware you were there before there they are getting uppercutted to death, followed up tempbarrier and a hasty retreat.

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Considering that DF doesnt even have the barrier breaking Reaper has, it does matter

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No it’s not. His attacks go through barriers and if he’s landing on a vulnerable target, they probably aren’t huddled behind a barrier. And certainly aren’t once they get popped up into the air.

I feel like you keep trying to redirect the conversation to strawman arguments.

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Can we cut the ttitle to be
“SO CAN WE KILL THE DOOMFIST”
Would be nice one tbh.

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Or “make the audio queues more noticeable when a Doomfist is approaching over a rooftop”

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I mean, would be sound indicator that its time to murder doom so im up for it.

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DF cant help at all at breaking barriers, and also lacks poke dmg

Combine with lack of range and a reliable weapon, he deserves to be able to get his kills, which includes the CC behind them, cause if his CC was even worse, he would be a worse pick than he already is, if not a throw pick

He is loud, and he has the initial sound cue of Slam when its activated, that gives you room to know he is near

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Like I said above, I got no problems with Doom doing what Doom does.

I just think the sound queues should be more obvious when he’s incoming.

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He needs buff though

Reverting the Uppercut revery time, RP charge time and Slam range back to 20 M would be enough

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Okay, then buff him.

But the point was “it’s not fun playing against a hero you didn’t even know that you were going to have to fight, until you are basically already dead”

I.e. If Tracer blinks were silent, it would be a similar problem

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Fair trade then

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That’s another thing about my general approach to being on the forums, what I want is the game to have a healthy playerbase size, and to make as many heroes as possible be viable at the same time.

Unlike a lot of people on the “Doom is OP”, I mostly just want him to be viable, but not unnecessarily frustrating to play against.

Doom though, similar to Mei, causes a lot of frustration because his counterplay design being kinda off.

This video is kinda long, but it goes over a process of elimination on why Mei and Doom are “problematic CC heroes”.

For instance, Roadhog is a CC hero that combos people to a near instakill, but he’s a lot less frustrating to play against.

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He can actually insta kill just about every non tank

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The point being, he’s not that frustrating to play against

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I’m not sure anybody should give this guy the credibility to determin something like this. He claimed moira was op by one tricking her, in a moira favored meta.

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