I love how two months ago Widow was a throw pick according to these forums, and now everyone wants her nerfed.
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Good widow was never a throw pick and even if she was tier 5090 i would never tell to change unless she was hard countered by winston and other dive company.
I just dont want to see snipers every game. They should be viable as tech pick but no as staple heroes. Same with genj, reaper, soldier, MEI whateverâŚ
Except some maps when some kind of heroes might shine.
Widow was never a problem with 200 hp suddenly once she Meta people think her hp is the problem
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Yes, but she has to be close to the fight.
Widow is far away, thus, her need for health is way smaller, tracer has to run around the enemy team like an annoying fly, widow sits comfortably and snipes from a distance, there is no need for her to have 200 health.
Before the comeback of sniper-Mei I would say yes. Now I donât want Mei to instakill a sniper at sniper range.
her hp was never a problem, being killed by her just feels so damn cheap to me.
Its like she doesnt have to really work for her kills like other heros do. Maybe thats jus me tho.
Weak kit excluding her gun
150?
Letâs look at her most reliable counter, Winston:
- He does 45 damage when he lands
- 60 damage per second
This means Widowmaker would die in less than 2 seconds to Winston!
You also have to take into account the fact that Mercyâs healing beam nerf means she canât keep heroes from dying to Winstonâs DPS anymore.
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instead of deleting widow (which is what youre basically proposing with the health nerf), why not delete brigitte or hanzo instead? Theyâre the reason widow is a meta pick.
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Loving the discussion.
200 HP. Impossible to kill, you need dive to kill them. Must nerf hook.
150 HP. Instantly dead. Any ranged character can one-shot her.
So apparently you can just go with Rein and stand behind the shield and shoot the widowmaker. So why do we need a nerf again? Teamplay not encouraged I guess? Everyone should be able to solo queue, and pick 6 DPS, and beat a pro widowmaker. Else it is unbalanced.
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No.
I donât get where the idea of âWidow is immortalâ comes from? I die to 90% of flank/dive attempts one me.
Factoring human reaction time if you get jumped + turn around time + hook cast and reel + predictable hook motion and you are dead most of the time.
If I survive by a miracle they use their mobility cooldown and finish me off.
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I really hope Blizz wont listen to this âNerf DF/Widowâ drama thats going around lately
Why? Because I believe a game needs frustrating aspects to be a good game. If you keep deleting everything thats potentially frustrating to play against you will eventuall play Soldier76-only mirror matches all day long. Oh, but his ult and RMB will be removed because aimbots are dumb and we dont want to die when he catches us off guard
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Except a scoped Widow is hardly able to move, and her only mobility option, grappling hook, is on a 10-second cooldown and takes a full second after activating it to get you anywhere. She would have practically no chance of surviving being dove if she had 150 HP with such a slow-activating (not to mention unreliable and buggy as hell) escape option.
There are few heroes in the game as easy to hit as Widow is, and giving her 150 HP would make her a very simple one-body-shot kill while discorded or for a damage-boosted sniper or Pharah, an easy headshot kill for Mei or Zenyatta, and an easy headshot kill for a damage boosted McCree anywhere inside the middle of his falloff range. And those are just the easy one-shot optionsâhalf the cast could easily mow her down in half a second if she had 150 HP. It doesnât matter how far away she is if sheâs practically stationary; anyone with a modicum of aim skill can land a shot on a target that isnât moving. Tracer has the mobility and escape tools to be viable with 150 HP, but Widow doesnât, unless you wanna halve her hook cooldown, make it instantaneous, and fix its dozen bugs.
And Widow doesnât often âsnipe comfortably from a distanceâ when her half-dozen counters are playable, which Blizzard will presumably be doing something about eventually.
150 hp = one-shot by Mei.
So no.
How is that a complaint? Looks like heâs just making an observation. Did he suggest lowering Widowâs health to 150? And you said player(s). Where are the other âcomplaintsâ?
You do know you can shot back at the Widow right? So how is she ever sitting âcomfortablyâ at a distance? You act like all heroes except her are melee heroes. lol
I think dropping her to 150 health makes a lot of sense⌠her hitbox is fairly small and her fans learn quickly that evasion âskillâ amounts to just smashing the movement keys and space bar in the hopes of not being hit⌠I guess that extra 50 health is all in that big butt of hers⌠it would actually help poor Ana out who has to run around on the ground to have the extra health in general too (and donât say she can biotic made herself that is wasteful to the team usually).
A little more thought process to go with this idea, and you will realize that EVERY HERO can do this against Widow to avoid getting shot themselves.
Woah.
Wait, thereâs more? Most of them donât become high noon level of slow and stationary when aiming down sights?
Oh my Lord.
Widowmaker gets killed by flankers easily and with the new grapple nerf Winstonâs going to have a ball of a time.