On the contrary.
Its a wuss world where laws make it illegal for you to say things - either Racist, or any other kind.
And BECAUSE the law should not prevent you from being able to speak your mind - social consequences should help pressure people to maintain politeness.
After all - if being a dick is consequence free, why not be one ?
Nothing sexual, racist, or prejudiced on that, it’s a native term like GG, that i don’t think i’ve ever seen outside of gaming, so i doubt it.
It’s poor sportsmanship, but I don’t consider it reportable. Sometimes it’s supposed to be a meme (they barely won, or in fact lost). On its own it isn’t inherently offensive, so much as an easy way to rub salt into the wound of people who are already tilted.
But more importantly, there is actual toxicity and harassment in this game. When you flood the report system with minor petty offences, you swamp the staff responsible for investigating. More and more has to be offloaded onto learning AI. Easier to trick, lots of false positives.
People seem to somehow have started equating toxicity with everyday rudeness, poor sportsmanship, or even being cheeky. You can be a poor sport or a bit of a snarker without being toxic. Toxic was supposed to be the term you used for the worst of the worst, not all of them. It’s ceasing to mean anything.
Save the report feature for people who are actively being disruptive over people who like to meme two letters in /m or spam crouch.
Whats the difference between sexual, racist or prejudiced speech and being just plain rude ?
There is no difference to my mind - you should be legally allowed to say anything - and suffer the social consequences for it.
I think you are giving way too much credit to reports. It is not that big of a deal, nobody is calling the cops on them, they need to hit a pretty high threshold to get banned and if they are banned they can still appeal.
If you say something with the intention of mock someone, that’s toxic. There is a reason they put a filter on “gg ez” that mocks the person who sent it instead. You don’t have to weight it against other possibilities of toxicity. If you do that, you may never report anything because “it could always be worse”.
So yeah. If someone is being toxic in any way, block, report and move on.
It’s only a good game if I win anyway, it should be reportable, you’re not creating friendly space saying this.
And what exactly is the crime for which you should face these consequences you talk about?
How so? How is it toxic to point out an “EZ” victory. If its the truth then the person receiving said “EZ” should be adult enough to accept that fact and move on. If it was not the truth then how on earth is it anything but a meme? If you let the term “toxic” include anything negative then sadly the game will ALWAYS be negative.
If you were at all objective you would realize that reporting these actions is pointless. It does not address anything at all. Reports for minor negative comments is nothing but petty. The only reason anyone would consider reporting these is if they were overly sensitive and had a low threshhold for critique. Because like it or not, EZ falls under under one of the following categories:
A meme.
Banter
A critique.
it is not toxic behavior.
Not a crime.
Crime means violation of the law - which could lead to you being punished by the government.
I was very clear that I think you should be Legally allowed to say anything, and not have any legal punishment as a result.
However, violation of the rules of social politeness an good conduct are a different matter.
You may not be arrested for being rude - but you CAN suffer social consequences.
The person saying “EZ” should be mature enough to know not to say it and move on.
It’s meant to mock people. That’s rude, so, it is toxic. It can’t be more objective than that. Whether it personally offends you or not is irrelevant when recognizing rude behavior.
Although yes, different people of different cultures and that were raised differently have different definitions of what constitute rude behavior.
You presented it as being a big crime. It’s laughable how someone can be that triggered by a statement.
So, nothing should be done about this, because social consequences are applied by the individuals themselves, not an organisation.
This whole war against t-bagging and “EZ” is petty.
A lot of people in this thread don’t actually seem to understand how the report system works.
In addition to its dictionary of bad words, the system is also adaptive—it recognizes which words and phrases are the most reported and adds them to the dictionary.
Therefore “EZ” is punishable because it is frequently reported. And by reporting it, even if the player is not suspended, you are still helping to define what is considered toxic.
It does not matter whether you personally think it is offensive or not. If you go into games and consistently write “ez” (whether it’s at the start or end of game, winning or losing), you will get silenced after a certain number of games.
Blizzard has not shared the exact details of their report system for obvious reasons (such as to avoid players exploiting the forgiveness factor of the system), but it is very similar to how the system in League of Legends work:
That’s very interesting, thank you for the information.
Morals.
Exactly my point.
In some future maybe, but I doubt that people will cave in and be polite because of social consequences.
It’s easier to generalize the people annoyed by dumb behavior as being upset, because it doesn’t harm their agenda to just be as rude as possible with no punishment.
If you make someone to look dramatic, you’re absolved of any possible guilt… in your mind, of course.
Actually, no.
See, your interpretation is social as something that is only applied by individuals is a fairly narrow interpretation of what “Social” means.
I’ll give you an example.
The NFL just passed new rules that says players are not allowed to kneel for the national anthem.
A player can not be ARRESTED for doing it - its not against the law.
However, as NFL players are employees of the NFL, they are subject to the various rules and codes of conduct dictated by the NFL.
Violation of these rules can lead to a player being fined, or even FIRED under some circumstances.
These are not Legal consequences - but they ARE social ones.
Similarly, we, as the players of this game, are also subject to the code of conduct as dictated by Blizzard.
we are not their employees, but as costumers, we are still subject to these codes.
Violation of these codes, such as bad behavior on the part of the player, can lead to silencing, temporary and even permanent bans.
These too, are social consequences.
These are NOT social consequences. I am amazed.
What you presented are contractual clauses, not social consequences.
We should just report people for winning altogether
like I said, you’re limiting the interpretation of “social” - your work environment also falls under the “social” category.
So long as its not illegal - it falls into the social category.
then again, I may be wrong, but even under teh contractual clauses, its still a violation.
Which may technically make it worse.
Edit:
Anyway, I’ve gotta go.
Its been fun.