Samito: "Moira nerfs aren't enough"

Well the team needs to change. Thats business.

F×#*k Samito. All my homies f#$*ing hate Samito. XD

They need to give anti-heal to another support. Ana’s kit is bloated.

To be honest, after watching some of his streams, I think Samito has a habit of complaining against any characters he does not play regularly or counters the characters he plays. The characters he plays a lot or likes playing is Fist, Genji and Hanzo. I believe he aggressively called for deleting Brig cause it counters Genji and Fist, Widow because she can counter all three in one way or the other and now Moira cause she counters Genji. He also wants Bap nerfed because his immortality bubble can counter a lot of ultimates. To be honest, I would not get pissed off listening to his 5 year old behavior quite amusing.

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Moira is brilliant for the older players, people with hand problems, low hand speed, new players, people who just struggle to aim, etc. There needs to be heroes with Moira’s abilities to make the game fair. Blizzard listen to their beloved streamers and OWL pros because they have the biggest tantrums and they’re physically visible. This needs to change.

If you’re a DPS and you can’t 1v1 kill a support with a little back and forth then you’re just not as good as that support player.

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He publicly proposed the damage orb changes that are on experimental in the dev discord.

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Don’t feed the trolls (aka manchild Samito)

at this point it feels like the forums just stalk samito for stuff to complain about

Sounds like a good idea.

I can’t decide if this guy wants her to be deleted or if he actually cares and wants her to be a skill-thirsty hero

But by the sounds of things he wants her to be the hardest character in the game to play. Maybe that’s fine, if she can achieve a really high impact potential… but at the same time it almost seems like this is more about personal retribution on “Moira players” due to his eyes seeing the entity that is Moira… and too many orb battle scars.

Personal note:
I want her to be valuable, I don’t care if she’s hard or easy, but I think she was already fun to play. I think tacking things on to fade robs her of her entire play-style/play-ability.

-Reduce beam size
-Don’t mess with dmg orb too much, maybe something like reducing the dmg it does based on how low on HP the target is which turns orb strictly into ult farm/chip dmg
-You can increase fade’s CD if you want…
-Add something utility to coal. Have it cleanse targets or work like bap’s lantern: where targets are invuln while immersed in coal. You can shorten coals duration for this… but it officially turns Moira into a defensive ult utility machine.

I don’t think she needs to be reworked into one of the hardest characters to play for no real reason, given the disparity in impact potential…

For what it’s worth, I don’t know why this guy complains so much, being in a high rank where Moira is supposed to be less effective. Maybe that’s why…

Another note:

The idea of pursuing, so actively, a group of players (which is what I think he’s really after, as opposed to trying to make Moira into something good) shows a disconnect between him and the world around him.

If hero is hard to play, but isn’t game-winning…you just got yourself new Symmetra.

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Competitive players being accepting of skill heroes being good…what a shocker.

Meanwhile, the forum hate skill heroes being strong but love braindead heroes being good.

Also Anti Heal + High Healing allows Ana to hard counter any character who could theoretically replace her. Which… isn’t exactly healthy for the game.

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The question is, how difficult is it to become impactful on that skill-hero? What’s the actual disparity? What’s the average amount of time for someone who had experience on another character and got decent value out of them into D/M/GM, compared to someone like Ana? How hard is it to actually acclimate to her play in order to dominate with her kit?

It’s easy to say “she requires skill” but I feel the conversation should be in far more detail than just this.

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How much skills a hero take isn’t something you can really quantify.

I’ll agree that healing tanks or landing nades within 15~m) isn’t something too difficult, but a good Ana need skills to consistently land healings on a mobile dps and defend herself from flankers. Heroes like Moira and Brigitte don’t.

I really wish Samito’s ad bots would stop spamming these forums.

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Just gonna say it, experimental orb is broken if it’s during this current meta. She can deal ridiculous damage to whole enemy teams with it in that state, during a zero shield meta.

But that’s just it; it’s basically a dps ability, on a healer that is capable of outhealing all other heroes in the game, with relative ease. It really is a bad idea.

As for Samito, who gives a damn what he says? He’s just one content creator.

Me: “Quit calling out streamers or get banned from the forums”

People still care as to what he thinks? :skull:

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Who said what and why should anyone care? Honestly, the way people flail around streamers these days are astonishing. Putting someone in front of a camera and call them a “streamer” doesn’t make their opinion a “fact” of some sort. It’s still just someone’s opinion.

And since we have a gazillion megaton of streamers these days - everyone proclaiming their importance of some sort - we’re basically back to a more advanced forum setup where people post their opinions on videos instead.