Role Queue is just......bad

That’s fine. I don’t agree with the people that hate on role queue but you have a right to your opinion. As long as we stick to the issues and not get into personal attacks I even enjoy debating the merits of various game design issues, including role queue, so it’s good for me if people with contrary opinions are posting.

I just find the constant new forum accounts all saying the same thing… well… curious.

I might mention by the way… that Blizzard can easily survey 1000 or 5000 people with a pop-up dialogue in game or an e-mail to active users or whatever, and probably have done so.

They aren’t going to be fooled about the opinion rates by a handful of sock-puppet accounts.

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Players with poor aim like me most definitely pick Mercy over Ana

Why are you playing this game if you don’t want to work as a team and just “carry”?

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I completely agree. Sometimes it’s necessary to triple tank when the enemy team is running heavy DPS, like a Bastion/Symm or Bastion/Reaper combo. Or 3 healers/2 heals and a support, etc. Especially if the role that your teammates qued is not doing well that game. It puts way more stress into Comp when this happens.

I reallyyyyyy don’t understand why this isn’t just an optional gamemode, with a separate Ranking system. Forcing players to play just the role they’ve qued for is going to really make this game unfun. The POINT of OW is to switch characters and have the advantage - or disadvantage - of an uneven team. Nothing is more rewarding than swapping roles with a teammate and winning.

Why, Blizz. Why?

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Lots of optimism. I doubt it will make any difference in this regard. You get a stable role balance, and thats all.

It is really fun to try to carry when it is nearly impossible. When you do… It is a red panty night.

So far swaths of us enjoy the hell out of it

That last part is extra on your part. An uneven team is not the way to go usually.

Hell, one of the ‘hints’ says “A well balanced team wins more often than not”

Which is literally Blizzard telling you “Hey, 2/2/2 can work wonders!”

I know it’s recommended, but to force that is nonsense. If a team wants to go 4 DPS, then let them be punished if it doesn’t work. But that should be the team’s decision.

If ANYTHING, have the role pool open to two roles you can choose from, not one. That way if someone’s aim just isn’t cutting it, and you qued DPS and Heals, you can swap off and not suffer a loss because your teammates can’t hit anything.

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But the strong compositions are using hybrids? And goats, the most oppressive meta in OW history… Was a double, triple stack?

Well balanced comps do not mean Jack in Overwatch. Or at least they didn’t. 222 does push it in that direction.

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It’s not the team’s decision though.

Not only are the 4 DPS punished. The two poor saps left playing healers are punished too

That literally undermines the entire system

Sure. Balanced isn’t always the way to go. I’m not claiming it is always the best.

It’s just the only option now.
I think it’s great that compositions like GOATS cannot work anymore. The limitations encourage more diversity in my opinion.

They did and do actually. Especially on ladder.

Pointing to the top 1% of organized play and saying “it doesn’t mean jack in OW” is pretty shortsighted to be honest.

Yeah. So does this entire role que system, lol. Again, make it an optional game mode with a separate rank system, that way you please everyone.

I’m saying that a mandatory 2/2/2 comp undermines the entire system, because the original system was pick whatever you want, but 2/2/2 is recommended.

Forcing EVERY single OW player to do this is nonsense and takes away the game for me. I’m a support main, too! I had more frustration with this role que system than I did before it!

And I meant, either A) Make it a separate game mode, keeping the 2/2/2 lock with the now current ranking system, or B) Figure out a way to be able to swap roles from the two you choose from. Maybe make it to where to have to pay the credits you earned from matches to swap. The more you play, the more you can swap. I don;t know, Blizz is crafty, they can think of a way to average out an SR from two different roles.

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Swaths just want to keep it so they can play their dps badly. That’s really the whats saving it.

While me being the support/tank who has to babysit this school field trip the whole time.

Hog is literally the best DPS in the game outside of snipers and flankers… And he is in the tank slot. Well… Actually, maybe people are onto Mei now. You get my point. Same with Zen. A team with Hog and Zen will run over “balanced” comps all the time.

Role queue system doesn’t undermine “the entire system” because role queue is… the entire system.

Did you actually comprehend my post?

Separate SR means you cannot change roles mid-game. End of story.

I’m a support/tank player and I enjoy doing my job still.

I also enjoy being able to go DPS without worrying about not having a healer or having a 5 DPS composition.

Or having to make a DPS only alt account.

That’s quite a stretch man. Not even going farther. You’re just wrong here

Not even, again. This is not a long term fix for the game but just another way it will be buried. I encountered something similar in League but at least there I could solo carry regardless.

Who is better? Besides potentially Mei?

Hog get’s shredded by Reaper now.

Hog counters Reaper if you know how to hook combo. It is even… At worst.