The pig pen change was good if it meant the one-shot wasn’t 90% guaranteed. Anything I see get hooked above diamond always dies, including reaper and most tanks. The range on hook is especially noticeable in higher ranks.
This character is absolute cancer to play against. Everyone is scared of peeking, harder than a Widow
Are you being serious? Staying 21m away from a hero is harder than never getting LoS of a hero that can kill you from 59m away? Seriously?
Not to mention hook is on a 7s CD while Widow can be popping heads on a 1s cadence (or at least trying to).
They are not even comparable!
Hook is also much easier to land than a head shot. Head shots have to hit the head, hook has to graze the body.
Again, the problem is Hog’s lack of risk. Resource Breather is the thing that needs to be reverted.
Even the best Hogs do not commonly beat 50% hook accuracy. And of those nearly 1/4 are not fatal.
I think that if the hook didn’t stun and was only a pull it would be way, way better already, even if we let him have the one-shot.
I would NERF HOG this way: I’d EXCLUSIVELY reduce his Chain Hook range from 20 Meters to 15 METERS, and then watch his win/pick-ratio from there. As compensation, maybe give him 25 ARMOR to make him more ‘Tanky.’
That would FORCE HOG to get closer to actually EXECUTE his combo, making it more HIGH-RISK - HIGH-REWARD gameplay.
They’re both cancer and both can be removed.
I seriously doubt this lmao. It takes zero effort to secure the one shot combo, ESPECIALLY after his damage buff.
It’s essentially guaranteed if you land the hook.
Probably because you don’t play, or watch others play, Roadhog; very typical for the people that love to cry about it on here.
Many heroes have more HP than the combo, not to mention reticle placement and hero position.
Not really. TAB was changed to a resource meter because Hog was a terrible tank to play in 5v5 due to the lack of power in her kit. Hog doesn’t need to continue on this nerf trend. He’s already suffering in winrate as it is.
I’ve played the hero and I play against the hero all the time.
If the hog lands the hook, unless you’re specifically playing a hero that can consistently interrupt the combo? No… it’s a kill 90% of the time.
Usually why the counterplay is to prevent landing the hook at all in the first place.
The only heroes with more HP are the tanks and someone like bastion with the armor he has. Except since I know how hog functions and you seem to believe I don’t, I also know that the entire strategy is to fire a right click or left click depending on the distance right as you animation cancel into hook, so you do a bit of damage beforehand which makes the combo even MORE consistent.
Even if people aren’t dying they are now pulled out of position and left with like a sliver of health lol.
Again there’s a reason the counterplay is preventing the hook from landing entirely. Because if it lands? They die a grand majority of the time.
Hog got reworked because he had TOO much power in his kit and just a flat out poor design. Or are we forgetting early seasons of OW2 roadhog?
They saw no one liked his design and proceeded to make it worse by straight up taking out counterplay from his kit and making stuns entirely inconsequential again breather. His rework was a total abject failure, from top to bottom.
In no world should hogs combo instakill 300hp
Dont go near him,how hard is it.But people are fine getting splatted by widow from across the map and spawn.
Who is people? Really, just type “widow” in this forum’s search bar.
And I could name at least another 10 things that are just as cancer. Let’s remove them all to be fair?
You are right. He needs a rework.
Fortunately, he is slated for one sometime in the year.
Sounds like you are just mad that you didn’t get carried and need someone to blame. Must be hog’s hook this weekend.
And JQ ult? Lmao
complaining about the tank with the lowest win rate btw, just a skill issue im afraid.
Removing his combo would cripple him, we’ve learned that the hard way over the course of 10 years.
If need be, they can revert his breather to be on a cooldown to add more risk his gameplay.