Your suggestion isn’t balance or making her more counter-able. It’s a veiled attempt to encourage nerfing a character to the point they can’t be played.
You want to her to be easier to play against? Make actual suggestions that can re-balance her kit and other heroes in the game into a healthier place.
Simply breaking her shield when using SB without any compensation isn’t balance.
Brig doesn’t have reliable counters.
Pharah is insta deleted by good enemy hitscan, esp on PC and when you don’t have a mercy.
Junkrat is only effective in chokes.
Widow/Hanzo are too busy looking out for their counterparts rather than wasting time shooting her shield.
Other long range hitscan like soldier and mcree don’t do enough burst damage to penetrate her armour.
Bastion is never played outside of payload maps on attack because he is very situational, and a niche pick.
DF works, but is very vulnerable to stack stuns and getting melted down because of his large hitbox and small health pool.
Rein works, but only if Brig isn’t being pocketed by a main healer. Not to mention Brig + DF makes his life hell.
Not to mention, you have to be skilled with these heroes to have a chance against brig. A widow just doing body shots on brig is just free ult charge for brig’s main healer, or a DF who sucks is just feeding, meanwhile, even a terrible brig can get immense value out of her easy kit.
And your disagreements don’t amount to much than “I don’t like it because I don’t like it”.
That said I’m perfectly fine buffing Brig in other ways if she gets nerfed.
Since my bias is to increase competitive hero variety.
But also that means my bias is against “almost any dps hero is invalid unless they can kill a particular support hero”.
Which for the most part, at high levels, just means Doom and Sombra, or a Brig in the DPS spot.
No, I think you’re just totally missing the point.
And I agree, that removing a hero is unnecessarily drastic.
Once again, just because his solution is drastic, doesn’t mean his reasoning isn’t sound. Seeing someone asking for a hero to be removed because of how awful for the game they are and thinking “Damn, he’s got such an extreme negative opinion of this hero. That must mean they’re actually good for the game.” is beyond illogical.
lol it’s a 6 stack of players all named deletebrig.
I don’t think anyone should actually take that seriously. Effect is just meming, hard.
Seriously, I’m not sure why anyone even bothers. Blizzard doesn’t listen to their customers at all anymore. Even when they make huge mistakes - they don’t admit it, and they will not correct it. They have multiple huge hero re-works since release - the very sign that the designers have no idea how to design a proper hero for this game.
To top it all, they think they can learn “in the field” by releasing horrible ideas, designs, and game play and the community will not only accept it, they will continue to play regardless of how bad everything is.
There is only one way to have any impact on Blizzard and that is to stop playing and buying their games. However, that would have to happen on a mass scale - and given all the people who attended their blizzcon fund raising event (which, btw, provides zero benefit to the attendees) it is clear there are millions still willing to throw their parents cash away for games with minimal entertainment and fun value.
The economics don’t work, that is why “loot” exists - to make you jealous of other players because they have some type of “virtual” dingy that you don’t have. Every wonder why that works so well? Because it works, they don’t have to listen to their customers.
Completely wrong.
She is not insta-deleted, and was buffed recently, with increased RoF and the ability to break Brigitte’s shield with less than once clip.
Blows her and her shield up at the same time, even her shielding herself does not help against side bombs. With his movement he is far from being only effective on chockes, you don’t play him much if you say that.
So there are always counterparts to them, lol. And no, Hanzo shreds her shield and her, with 420 damage in less than 2 seconds.
As if payload maps are so few, and on them he destroys her. Any higher positioning and she can’t get to him while he just shreds her in seconds. Another counter to the list.
Brigitte shield is large enough to break it easily, and was gutted down to make it break more easily. WS helps against Doom inconsistently, bash is the only means of survival of her against him, which the broken reasoning to remove it to boop making her useless and defenseless against all melee damage dealers. Doomfist kills Brigitte with one RP.
At least you aknowledge that, and main healers often have other priorities than pocketing the other healer, like healing tanks or dps. There are enough opportunities to punish her and remove her from the fight when she overextends.
Pointless argument, because Brigitte takes skill on surviving against them as well.
I can point to about 10 things I’ve asked for that are now in the game.
Including, ironically, a hero that heals with shields instead of health, that would give a 75hp overshield.
Good thing I in no way, shape, or form said that then!
Bad information from an extremely biased source can be more detrimental to your ability to think logically about an issue than no information.
When there are so many alternative sources of quality information, you should disregard information from a source that is extremely biased to limit your exposure to bad information.
No, but you’ve got the same mindset. Having a drastic opinion somehow means what he’s saying about the character is wrong. Same level of logic, or lack thereof.
All information is going to be biased. It’s called “having an opinion” and if you go look at other pro players (still in line with my claim that they’re most likely to be correct) they’re saying the same things.
Guess they’re all wrong.
You can counter Brig just with your playstyle.
Avoid flanking, because she counter that type of play, no matter what are you using. (Or try to do it if brig is occupied somewhere else)
Pharah is the best choice. Just be aware of your positioning. If you can’t take out Brig without being targeted by enemy hitscan, kil them before.
Play with your tanks. Usually I see 3 type of brigitte. Backline defender, frontliner and the rusher one.
The first one is a problem only if you’re playing a flanker. (that you shouldn’t use)
Focus on enemy frontline and you’re fine.
For the second one, try to engage her from an off-angle. Use highround to have an advantage and force her to retreat. She can’t do nothing in this situation.
For the last one, be ready to use your abilities. If you manage your abilities correctly, you will win every time.
Personally I counter her with these heroes:
Pharah, McCree,Hanzo,Widow and Soldier as dps.
Orisa,Hog and Zarya as tanks.
Ana, Lucio as supports.
Reminds me of sth I saw earlier today:
It is not even close.
Sure, but there is a difference between someone extremely irrational and someone who just has a reasonable but different opinion from your own.
You shouldn’t listen to anyone who denies climate change exists about environmental controls necessary to stop it. They are a bad source of information and they may give you bad information that impairs your ability to think logically on the issue.
Meanwhile someone who acknowledges it but wants to limit environmental controls for x,y,z reasons would be a good conservative person to listen to on it, because they are less likely to expose you to very bad reasoning and logic.
Some of the things he says may overlap with people who aren’t as extremely biased as him, that is actually pretty likely and why it is okay to listen to a better source of information.
The things that aren’t bad and fair points are highly likely to be shared and repeated by better sources without the additional bad information from someone who is speaking so exaggeratedly.
Oh wow, someone is mad because they felt the need to respond to the person using their own joke. “Wow”.
Say what you want, but unless you’re prepared to back it up and actually explain why you think I’m wrong, you’re wasting your time.
That’s not at all the same thing. A person who doesn’t believe Climate change exists obviously isn’t going to think any measures are needed to prevent it. Their opinion is already concreted by an already-established fundamental belief of theirs. Effect isn’t having his beliefs challenged. He’s made his own opinion based on his own experience. He didn’t start with the view that Brig is an abomination, he developed it having started at a neutral standpoint, but someone who doesn’t believe in climate change is, by default, against measures to prevent it.
Nope. The pharah changes were a nerf in some aspects, with the reduced splash damage, you now have to fly low and get direct hits on her shield, or her. These days, I’ve had good luck taking out Pharah’s as Zen, because of how low she has to fly. Shows to me that you don’t play Pharah that much, or you have a mercy pocket keeping you topped up.
The break her shield argument is dumb, because it regenerates very quickly, and she can hide behind a wall, friendly barrier, or hell, even the payload to regen it. By shooting it, you are just wasting your time that might’ve been more beneficial killing someone else.
Again, any sort of main tank barrier makes snipers pointless. They have much larger fish to fry than shooting at barriers.
How many times have you seriously seen bastion being played, even on payload maps, or being played in general? Bastion may counter brig, but he himself is countered by the rest of the enemy team, just like Pharah.
Did you know that doomfist has to stay completely stationary for a few seconds to land his rocket punch? Did you know that uppercut and seismic slam both puts him in a very predictable trajectory that makes it simple for both hitscan and projectile heroes alike to shoot him. Spoken like someone who has never played Doomfist.
With proper communication and smart play, Rein gets completely destroyed by Brigitte+Ana. A single ana bionade on Brig will both buff her inspire, as well as disable healing on an enemy rein, making him completely useless, and since Ana is meta right now, you can see this happening in pretty much every engagement, unless you have an Ana of your own.
Brig requires no mechanical skill, just gamesense, which every hero needs.
She literally defines the game almost as much as when Ana was super op AND she takes basically no skill to do so.
She was the developers lazy way of dealing with dive instead of buffing hero’s like hog and nerfing D.VA or Winston
Not if they are playing a tank. Tanks are the ones forced to be on the objective where they are getting knocked around by Brig the whole match.
If a tank can’t handle Brig, he’s just bad.
Briggite=no skill
Change my mind.